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RomanKar:
I have no problem running with a gunner on my ships.  The idea that a gunner is useless is unfounded.  However, I do think gunners could be buffed a bit.  Engis just have too much utility that you give up when you go gunner, and I don't think gunners get enough of a damage boost over engis to compensate for the loss of utility.

Now, all of this depends greatly on the load out of the ship, the ability of the crew and pilot, and what the other ship(s) you are running with is doing.  But on the whole, I think gungineers come out ahead of the gunner, but it isn't like the gunners are useless or a detriment.

RearAdmiralZill:

--- Quote from: RomanKar on June 21, 2013, 12:48:32 pm ---I have no problem running with a gunner on my ships.  The idea that a gunner is useless is unfounded.  However, I do think gunners could be buffed a bit.  Engis just have too much utility that you give up when you go gunner, and I don't think gunners get enough of a damage boost over engis to compensate for the loss of utility.

Now, all of this depends greatly on the load out of the ship, the ability of the crew and pilot, and what the other ship(s) you are running with is doing.  But on the whole, I think gungineers come out ahead of the gunner, but it isn't like the gunners are useless or a detriment.

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And this is why we will always disagree, because I see no need to buff gunners, as they perform their task better than an engineer playing gunner. The game is too fluid to accurately talk ideal situations because, even that ideal situation evolves, which is why I prefer the fluid ammo selections.

I'm not saying this is all the ammo we will ever need and that more can't come out, or that these current ones can't change, but I find the utility of 3 ammo types more useful to my dedicated gunner than more repair.

RomanKar:
Remember, it's not just repair, the real item that puts the Engineer slightly above the gunner is the buff hammer, IMO.

RearAdmiralZill:
In all cases or just some?

RomanKar:

--- Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on June 21, 2013, 01:21:52 pm ---In all cases or just some?

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In my case, on my junker and pyri, the buff hammer is the item that pushed me and my crew to preferring buff-gungineers to gunners.

 

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