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On the subject of vote kick...

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Naoura:
I feel you Shwalbe... damned do I.

I try and teach them, but the pricks just keep being pricks. No stopping that.

Votekick would be so, so nice... Especially for THOSE ships. You know the one's I'm talking about.

Never going to be implemented because Muse is so optimistic about human nature...

The Mann:
First of all, welcome to the forums Nezumi-chan!

Secondly, good work keeping this thread constructive guys.

There are some very good points here, Kicking can be attributed to bullying of players as well as trolling which portrays a really interesting question, how could they resolve these issues.

As a moderator, I have the ability to kick people however, there are contingencies in place which all moderators must follow before using the tool.

Just as a preamble, I am aware of the limited population of moderators these days as mentioned by multiple players within the forums and general community in game. This is just an insight into how the function is currently used.

So the rule we moderators follow is shortened into an acronym called WWMKB. This is contingency to ensure moderators do not abuse the tools at their disposal and to ensure the correct procedures are carried out to avoid any further confrontations outside of game such as on Steam Community or Forums.
It stands for Warn, Warn, Mute, Kick and well, you know what B stands for.

Now, as you can see, we must warn twice and mute before considering the kick function. This is why kick is very rarely used. Often, most players will simply stop after a warning or two.

A proposal is to revamp the reporting system rather than provide players with these tools.
Currently, once a player is reported, the report is logged for the devs while also sending them a default warning.
One consideration would be to assess the reports and perform a WWMTK contingency. (Warn, Warn, 1 minute mute (while in lobby) and TK (Kick from lobby only)).

Thus the mean players will receive two warnings and a mute before a kick. This will only apply to the lobby. Further actions would require Moderator or Dev action.

Obviously I am well against this however, this is a possibility.
In saying this, Automation of this tool would be extremely dangerous for multiple reasons, players can spam report a player thus leading to the original debate of Bullying or Trolling.

Fynx:
A number of people suggested the vote-kick to require confirmation from 90% of people in the lobby.

This would pretty much guarantee the feature is not being abused, because if 90% of people in the lobby can be made to want to kick that one player, it's far better for that player not to be there.

The Mann:

--- Quote from: Fynx on January 24, 2017, 04:05:10 am ---A number of people suggested the vote-kick to require confirmation from 90% of people in the lobby.

This would pretty much guarantee the feature is not being abused, because if 90% of people in the lobby can be made to want to kick that one player, it's far better for that player not to be there.

--- End quote ---

I can see this being a good starting point. :)

Daft Loon:
An idea I've had is to tie it to completing matches with novices at some ratio ex playing 10 matches tolerating (or better if possible) a novice captain or crew gives 1 use of kick, that way one of the big stated problems of people kicking low level players preemptively becomes mathematically impossible.

In other words being moderately nice to the ignorant and/or slow witted would mean not having to tolerate the complete trolls.

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