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GUNS Balance Questions and Concerns v1.2
Squash:
--- Quote from: awkm on May 17, 2013, 12:14:54 pm ---squash bugs.
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Squash bugs us all.
Ofiach:
So I have to ask the god awful question that will get me flamed into oblivion.
Is the lumberjack just a bit too powerful? 2 shots pop balloons and there are 4 more in the clip. I don't know the exact carryover from hitting the downed balloon to hull damage but that seems a tad.... umm...... OP. It really isn't as hard to shoot as alot of people say (especially with lesmok) and just a couple hours of practice can make you beyond deadly. I've shot the gun in maybe 5 matches and there really seems to be nothing to it as long as my captain isn't spinning circles for no reason.
The heavy flak is a much harder heavy gun to shoot and *ducks behind desk* the lumberjack seems about as hard to hit with as a hwacha.
AWildGodzilla:
--- Quote from: Ofiach on May 18, 2013, 10:13:57 pm ---So I have to ask the god awful question that will get me flamed into oblivion.
Is the lumberjack just a bit too powerful? 2 shots pop balloons and there are 4 more in the clip. I don't know the exact carryover from hitting the downed balloon to hull damage but that seems a tad.... umm...... OP. It really isn't as hard to shoot as alot of people say (especially with lesmok) and just a couple hours of practice can make you beyond deadly. I've shot the gun in maybe 5 matches and there really seems to be nothing to it as long as my captain isn't spinning circles for no reason.
The heavy flak is a much harder heavy gun to shoot and *ducks behind desk* the lumberjack seems about as hard to hit with as a hwacha.
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Ive Seen it, Ive used it, Ive killed with it one of the most unbalanced weapons in the game if you have a mearly good gunner your basicly invincible. Maybe ammo cap decrease ? or a bitch of a dmg nerf because to me it seems like a weapon that makes all other weapons look kinda lame. especialy with lesmok Easy mode ..
Captain Smollett:
Don't forget about the arming timer. As a member of a team that frequently uses this weapon I'm not going to break down the intricacies of flying against one but it's not as hard to defeat as you think.
It takes three shots to break an unrepaired balloon and 4 to break one that's being maintained. Anyone can learn to hit with the gun but it takes a high % of hits and a very accurate gunner to make it effective before it becomes completely useless.
This gun has gone through a great deal of balancing and is in in my opinion well balanced.
Just because a gun is effective doesn't mean it's op. In the past there have been a great many guns that were actually well balanced nerfed into oblivion because people complained before they took the time to step back and evaluate or learn how to counter them; these on the large happened to mostly be disabling guns (flame thrower, carousel, carronade) because they irritated newer players, the lumberjack is one of the only disabling guns remaining the still fits into the competitive meta.
I'm of the mindset of bringing more weapons and greater depth into competitive play. Guns that are obviously over powered should be brought under control, but awkm is quite good at what he does and we really don't have any of those in the game right now. If anything I'd love to see the community clamoring to buff the guns that are out of use, not nerf the weapons that are still effective.
Ofiach:
Right now it's a merc field field gun. Also the arming timer is a complete joke with incendiary ammo on. You pretty much have to be in hump range before the it stops being effective.
Like I said I've used it in 5 matches and it takes alot less practice then it is made out to need. I watched some vids of the old flak and that seemed to be a tad harder to shoot than the current lumberjack and was absolutely raped by the nerfhammer.
The lumber isn't artemis post 1.2 OP but it is a bit out of line. 4 shells and keeping the reload time is a completely reasonable change, alot more reasonable than the absolute slam the heavy flak got.
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