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The Current Meta.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on September 11, 2015, 12:16:38 am ---Just like the flamethrower, and the mino, and the everything. Hwacha nerf will come when low levels complain enough to be pandered to.
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Hwacha Nerf will come.
Though not a big Nerf, it will come.
I predict Goldfish will barely be used again. If they are it'll be good pilots and crews doing flak fish or blenderfish.
Squids will be more efficient with less fish to contest them.
Mobula and spires shall become powerful.
But the Hwacha will be no less effective, it'll just.be a.minor Nerf.but people will avoid it if.its not a goto all purpose weapon.
Fynx:
--- Quote from: Kamoba on September 11, 2015, 06:19:37 am ---Squids will be more efficient with less fish to contest them.
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I have no idea why everyone thinks that bringing fish into a match with a squid on the other side is an automagic win...
--- Quote from: Kamoba on September 11, 2015, 06:19:37 am ---Mobula and spires shall become powerful.
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Mobula OP. Give me big SCS without mobula, we'll actually see different playstyles for once more.
Hwachaspire kills so fast it's a fully legal competitive ship, no thralls' magic required.
Lumberspire benefits a lot from stamina, it can actually dodge and kill.
And carro spire was the scariest of them all, but it's completely useless now, thank you heavy carro arcs.
--- Quote from: Kamoba on September 11, 2015, 06:19:37 am ---But the Hwacha will be no less effective, it'll just.be a.minor Nerf.but people will avoid it if.its not a goto all purpose weapon.
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Hwachafish was used rarely before. Right now it's considered all purpose meta. Still, it doesn't have natural fast killing potential.
In my opinion nerfing the jitter back to what used to be before the heavy clip nerf would be enough to unmeta this ship.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Fynx on September 11, 2015, 06:40:05 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on September 11, 2015, 06:19:37 am ---Squids will be more efficient with less fish to contest them.
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I have no idea why everyone thinks that bringing fish into a match with a squid on the other side is an automagic win...
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Not an automatic win at all, but it is able to put up a fight :)
And I agree about the jitter, nothing big, just enough to make a difference. :)
Thomas:
I don't know about the hwacha-fish not being used before, it was always decently popular as a disable ship, particularly against pyramidions. Mobula and spire are already powerful. Mobula in particular is a good choice against hwacha fish, since it's very difficult to break all the components in a hwacha burst (unless you have a great gunner/pilot combo). Spire is like a less maneuverable hwacha-fish, but hits a lot harder.
In competitive matches, squid might be fine, but in pub matches, trying to coordinate a crew on that fast moving ship is difficult, even if you do manage to dodge a lot of deadly shots. It's hard to stay in arcs long enough to be effective with how vulnerable the squid is, particularly against disables which you have to be certain to dodge.
Kamoba:
--- Quote from: Thomas on September 11, 2015, 02:01:19 pm ---I don't know about the hwacha-fish not being used before, it was always decently popular as a disable ship, particularly against pyramidions. Mobula and spire are already powerful. Mobula in particular is a good choice against hwacha fish, since it's very difficult to break all the components in a hwacha burst (unless you have a great gunner/pilot combo). Spire is like a less maneuverable hwacha-fish, but hits a lot harder.
In competitive matches, squid might be fine, but in pub matches, trying to coordinate a crew on that fast moving ship is difficult, even if you do manage to dodge a lot of deadly shots. It's hard to stay in arcs long enough to be effective with how vulnerable the squid is, particularly against disables which you have to be certain to dodge.
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From what I've seen the biggest problem with pub crews on a squid is the side Gungineer camping hull or doing repairs because they panic when something is damaged or broken, often leaving the ship with just one gun shooting. Or of using gat mortar I've seen many gubgineers waste clips onto thin air while gat breaks armour, they complain no arcs, armour break comes and they're reloading...
Squid in pubs only works Caro flamer or gat banshee unless you are lucky with crew
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