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Was GOIO A Fluke?
DJ Logicalia:
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on May 04, 2015, 08:46:10 pm ---
weeks of testing and working hard at something makes you gain a bias opinion of it.
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No it fucking doesn't. Look, man, I'm a psych major, and while I have't yet graduated, I know a thing or two about the brain and how people react to shit like testing. Psychologists do it all the time. How the hell do you think anyone learns bloody anything? Nothing works like how you're describing. Absolutely nothing. If you give me one piece of research that backs up your asinine claims, I'll uninstall the game.
I think I understand your issue here. You have an aversion to facts. Testing? Who needs testing? What's testing even going to do, give you information about this mechanic you're so furious about? Give you the ability to provide informed and helpful feedback? Pfft. Who needs that! Just talk like an ass about things you have no knowledge about, that's sure to help improve the game. Coast on your elitism and and act like you're above everyone else until something happens that you can get pissed about, even though you provide no positive benefits to this community what so ever.
You do you, Maxy.
Richard LeMoon:
I actually emailed MUSE the night before the update practically begging them not to put certain things in. I was there from day one of stamina testing. My opinion never changed, and still has not. It is fun, but will be bad for new players. I knew they were putting way too much effort into it to simply drop it, so spent those weeks trying to give as much feedback as possible to soften the edges. The results show. Though I am still not happy with the results, I am proud of having shaped them. Perhaps we will see some of the other ideas I peddled.
The UI was the main reason for the last minute email. They have shown interest in some of my suggestions, and have passed them on to the art team.
The nerf to heavy clip was my strong suggestion, and I still think it a good one (with the addition of a few other things they left out).
So, ya. Logicalia is right. You are wrong, again. :)
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: DJ Logicalia on May 04, 2015, 10:14:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on May 04, 2015, 08:46:10 pm ---
weeks of testing and working hard at something makes you gain a bias opinion of it.
--- End quote ---
No it fucking doesn't. Look, man, I'm a psych major, and while I have't yet graduated, I know a thing or two about the brain and how people react to shit like testing. Psychologists do it all the time. How the hell do you think anyone learns bloody anything? Nothing works like how you're describing. Absolutely nothing. If you give me one piece of research that backs up your asinine claims, I'll uninstall the game.
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Here lies the double edged blade.
So as a major you should be aware of Psychology's history as failure of a "natural science." Fruedian psychology for decades caused horrible damage on the credibility to the field with its purely anecdotal/case study thesis. And sadly many schools of psychology still use this.
As a psych major I assume you are referencing the more modern empirical method. By which referenced by JB Watson (I know very old reference), psychology at the time (mainly referencing the behaviourist school) fails to truly be testable due to the presumption of the LACK the existence of free will or individuality (the observer effect being a possible factor in iffy test results by my conjecture). Or to paraphrase mainly to the immaterial nature of the field where nothing is solidly provable like chemistry or physics, it can't really be seen as a natural science.
So frankly any paper or report in psychology should really be taken with a grain of salt.
As for any paper? My knowledge of psyche is about the level of a layman. So please cite me some sources that you can say with 100% certainty that disproves classical conditioning. Reference a circumstance of psychological behaviour that has a near 95+% reproduction rate.
Because if you want to talk FACTS here. You better have some.
As for you lemoon. So just because you softened the blow... means the blow is still not a reason to be outraged over? Not that I'm not ungrateful or anything. :P
BlackenedPies:
Muse can have stamina in their game if they want. If new players like it then I'm for it. Complaints don't help suggestions do.
Admiral Obvious:
I have always felt stamina was more of a fun element to the game rather than any attempt of player gameplay-overhaul. It really leaves minimal impact as to the ending result of the game, an its just fun! That being said, for the gunner it is a huge help, so my previous statement more applies to pilot and engie.
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