Converting Light to Heavy

[Richard LeMoon]

How about this? Insane recoil/spread, infinite ammo (no reload unless you change ammo), very long reload if you change ammo, and the gun sets itself on fire after so many seconds of use, two stacks per second of use after overheated. Or maybe just add two stacks of fire every 5 seconds or so.

I keep asking for am ammo type that sets the gun on fire as you use it (Powder Keg ammo). Would be interesting to have a gun that did it by default.

[Lanliss]

Sounds good, but I think a simple overheating would make more sense. Unusable for something like a minute, unless someone comes and hit it with extinguisher, while chem spray or heatsink can prevent the overheating entirely. That would make heatsink a bit OP though, since it has infinite ammo. Maybe something more like 500 ammo with heatsink, while it normally overheats after 2-300 shots. Infinite ammo if you are using anything without an ammo reduction.

[PixelatedVolume]

I think it should have ammo.  As much as I like the idea of overheating, it just adds more complexity and a unique for a single gun.  I can see it being a little off-putting.

I almost think it shouldn't have much ammo but a quick reload. 

[Lanliss]

I do not think a quick reload would wor for a heavy machine gun. Any heavy machine gun in anything, games, movies, whatever, takes forever to reload. Then again, that may be because of the large clips. Also, wouldn't a small clip just turn it into the flak cannon?

[PixelatedVolume]

I feel like too much sustain would be OP though I don't want it to be a tissue-paper gun that just relies on massive ROF to be effective.

Not really sure how to walk that line.  Thoughts?

[Richard LeMoon]

It would basically be a bulletstorm gun. Put out as many shots as you can, hoping some connect. The one issue would be heavy clip. This gun would be broken by it as it is.

[Lanliss]

Infinite ammo if you are using anything without an ammo reduction.

Already thought of it. Recommended something like 300 I think.

[The Sky Wolf]

It would basically be a bulletstorm gun. Put out as many shots as you can, hoping some connect. The one issue would be heavy clip. This gun would be broken by it as it is.

I've been following your posts about your suggestion for this storm gun idea and I just want to say that I think it sounds really cool so far.

Lanliss is right, 300 rounds seems fare. It'd be like the heavy version of the gatling with 2-3x the rounds.

[Richard LeMoon]

Just for funseys.

[MightyKeb]

Just for funseys.

#MetaFish

[Richard LeMoon]

Solution to the heavy clip issue would be reverse arming. That means the secondary damage is turned off after a certain range.

Primary: Piercing. DPS similar to Wirlwind Gatling. Unaffected by range.

Secondary: Piercing as well. 150 meter range limit.

Eris Quad Machine Gun	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------
Piercing	6	0.2	0.2	1.5	0.2
Piercing	3	0.2	0.2	1.5	0.2
		Balloon	Hull	Armor	Component
	Modified Primary	1.2	1.2	9	1.2	150m to max range
	Modified AOE	0.6	0.6	4.5	0.6
	Modified combined	1.8	1.8	13.5	1.8	Under 150m
	Clip pri/combined	480/720	480/720	3600/5400	480/720
	DPS pri/combined	19/28.9	19/28.9	144.4/216	19/28.9
	DPS with reload	13/19.5	13/19.5	97.5/146	13/19.5
Clip size	400
Rate of Fire	16
Time to shoot clip	24 seconds
Reload time	12
Total time	36.9

By comparison, Gatling DPS is 111.7 to the armor. However, with the high jitter, the Eris would shoot pretty much everywhere on the ship. Damage to everything else is minor, so guns, engines, and balloon would act like a shield against it. Up close, this thing would be terrifying to the armor.

[PixelatedVolume]

Ohh I like!  How does reload stack up with light gat though?

[Richard LeMoon]

Here are the raw Gatling numbers. I did not do any rounding. The raw stripping power (if all shots hit) is not too much higher than the Gatling. The wide spread, however, would make it a hwacha-like weapon. Heavy will almost be required for max range. Other ammos would be good close up. Switching ammo mid-clip would be pretty risky, though.

Whirlwind Gatling	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------	----------------------
Piercing	7.5	0.2	0.2	1.5	0.2
Shatter	10	0.2	0.1	0.2	2
		Balloon	Hull	Armor	Component
	Modified	1.5	1.5	11.25	1.5
	Modified AOE	2	1	2	20
	Modified combined	3.5	2.5	13.25	21.5
	Clip	287	205	1086.5	1763
	DPS	29.5149382716	21.0820987654	111.7351234568	181.3060493827
	DPSwR	19.4921320832	13.922951488	73.7916428863	119.7373827966
Number of shots	82
Rate of fire	8.33
Time to shoot clip	9.7238895558
Reload Time	5
Total time	14.7238895558

[PixelatedVolume]

It sounds great to me!

Though I think it should have a stormy name to go with the whirlwind.

[ShadedExalt]

It sounds great to me!

Though I think it should have a stormy name to go with the whirlwind.

Whirlwind ----> Hurricane.