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Offline Richard LeMoon

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Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« on: August 20, 2014, 10:31:40 pm »
From the depths of Tartarus emerges a new mechanical nightmare. Born from myths of an insane man bound to a wheel of flame for all eternity in torturous punishment, this weapon shows neither mercy nor pity. It only gives pain and woe. The shrieks of Ixion cast terror across the skies, carried by burning rings of fire and pain...

So... what is it?

The Ixion is a vortex/hail cannon that fires high velocity vortex rings from a large cone. Rather than a projectile, it fires nothing but a ring of air. Just to make it more interesting (and to defy physics a bit, that ring is also on fire). Think of smoke rings traveling 200 mph and you get the idea, only on fire.

Here we have my concept of the Ixion on a Spire.



That image is a composite of the gun using the Lumberjack textures over an image of the actual REAL gun. Yes, folks, it is real.



Here are some images of the real thing in action.






Just imagine that, only bigger, scarier, and on fire, rather than an invisible air vortex.

What kind of damage would this thing do? There is only one answer. Impact and fire. We would have to break reality a bit to get the damage up where it would need to be to make this an effective weapon.

Range would be maybe greater (or less?)  than a Hellhound, but not too much. The real cannon shoots rings at 200 mph, and they travel quite far.

It is a single shot weapon with a relatively rapid reload. A real hail cannon can fire every 4 seconds or so. Depending on damage and balance, the reload would have to be adjusted.

Not sure on the arcs of the gun, but the aiming would be interesting. Since the gunner sits directly behind the massive cone, the only way to aim the gun is through a viewport through the barrel, thus giving the gunner a very limited view. The viewport slams shut upon firing.

If THAT was not enough to convince you, here is a video of what the real thing sounds like.

« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 10:40:40 pm by Richard LeMoon »

Offline Dutch Vanya

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 10:41:04 pm »
Yes please. All my support for a heavy impact gun. Great work on the whole concept.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 10:44:12 pm »
Really nice work on convincing me, yeah this is something that sounds delicious.

Now, my problem is... hahaha

Dont you think a real life heavy flak would do more than just... tip over a stack of hay? XD

Offline Canon Whitecandle

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 10:47:58 pm »
Keep the damage low, but it halves the damage of bullets passing through the smokering and deflects rockets away from the ship. I read posts screaming for a point-defense gun, so here we go.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 11:05:02 pm »
I read posts screaming for a point-defense gun, so here we go.

Yeah that seems like a good idea, but you also have to think how well it is then suited for maybe a goldfish.
Cus thruth be told, a goldfish needs some flexability.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 11:24:58 pm »
So... it's basically the secondary firemode of the tf2 pyro? Meh likes. Especially the oneshot part -> the designated lochnager gun.

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Dont you think a real life heavy flak would do more than just... tip over a stack of hay? XD

Once again, no idea what direction your statement comes from.
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 11:27:29 pm by Sprayer »

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 01:37:34 am »
This is the most ridiculous and awesome idea I've heard of for a new impact damage weapon.

It would require VERY careful balance - keep in mind that impact is effective against EVERYTHING...

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 04:15:24 am »
This is both incredibly awesome and scary at the same time. As it is a ring of air moving at great speed, my first thought would be that it has a damage 'drop off' as the real life counterpart vortex would slow down as it progresses, and lose momentum. So at a predetermined maximum range the impact damage would be nothing, following some sort of curve up to damage maximum which would be more or less in front of the cannon.


If THAT was not enough to convince you, here is a video of what the real thing sounds like.

That noise.  :o

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 05:21:37 am »
This sounds awesome.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 06:08:50 am »
That thing is screaming of OP to me. It better have just one shot, short ranged and long reload time cos impact damage is effective against everything AND can juggle a ship so its not facing its intended target. I can imagine a pair of those mothers on a galleon destroy you, your family and your dog as well. And I haven't mentioned having it buffed and loading lochnagar into it either.


Other than that, bloody awesome.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 08:09:47 am »
I am Sanji the Chef and I support the immediate implementation of this weapon. -Sanji the Chef, 2014

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 11:56:50 am »
The sounds is scary :O

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 12:07:46 pm »

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 07:36:10 pm »
Cake gives its full support to any heavy fire weapon.


Just... make the ring look pretty. Lots of flames, and it's very bright.

For. Uh. Balance... Yea.

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Re: Flame Vortex Cannon: Ixion
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2014, 01:01:29 am »
Can we name it the Bigger, Badder Wolf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN_N_J1yx-U

It did all the right things to earn the name.

(NOTE: I do not approve of my proposal for the name. Please do not listen to me)