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pandatopia:
I think once you hit 15 there needs to be a "pilot berserk" option where you can kill one of your crew.

You'd have to wear the commander elite costume to do this.

Gentleman pilots will be able to choke out the offending player with their golden gauntlet and throw them off the ship.
Lady pilots will turn them into a pincushion with their rapier.

Doing this will also give your remaining crew a "cowering in fear" bonus where their movespeed is cut in half but repair and reload cooldowns are reduced by half.

You gain rage whenever you use a voice command and crew do not respond in a timely fashion. You also gain rage whenever your ship dies or whenever your crew speaks for any reason. You can execute them at max rage.

Imagine:

--- Quote from: pandatopia on July 10, 2014, 01:33:30 pm ---I think once you hit 15 there needs to be a "pilot berserk" option where you can kill one of your crew.

You'd have to wear the commander elite costume to do this.

Gentleman pilots will be able to choke out the offending player with their golden gauntlet and throw them off the ship.
Lady pilots will turn them into a pincushion with their rapier.

Doing this will also give your remaining crew a "cowering in fear" bonus where their movespeed is cut in half but repair and reload cooldowns are reduced by half.

You gain rage whenever you use a voice command and crew do not respond in a timely fashion. You also gain rage whenever your ship dies or whenever your crew speaks for any reason. You can execute them at max rage.

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I'm going to hope this was meant as a sarcastic jest ;)

obliviondoll:
As a relatively new player, I've managed to get all 3 roles up to level 3. I feel perfectly comfortable playing outside of novice matches, but I still like sticking to novice matches at times because it feels less likely to throw me into the deep end against a full coordinated team.

It still happens even there, but it's less prevalent.

As for what I'd like to see, I think that players with only one role above level 4 should keep access to novice matches, BUT should be unable to select the higher-leveled role in novice matches, AND should be warned about the limitation and which role is unavailable when trying to load into a novice match. I'd also like to see players limited to ONLY playing novice matches until they have at least one role at level 3, or two roles at level 2 (basically 2 levels earned, regardless of same or different roles gives you access to non-novice gameplay). It might not be enough to get you good at the game, but by that point, you should have at least a basic grounding in the controls and functionality of the game.

As mentioned, I'm still a recent arrival. Even on my first day playing, less than 2 weeks ago, I was running into friendly faces in novice matches who were quite willing to offer helpful advice. Most of these players had only been playing a few weeks themselves, but as they had more experience than me, they had more of a feel for the game. It was pretty rare for information I heard in-game to contradict the established rules defined by regulars on the forums here - having read the forum and almost every page on the main site, I had as solid a grounding as I could without having the actual experience of playing - often things feel different from how the numbers and words line up.

If the experience I got as a new person is anything like the "average" new player experience, this game is actually one of the more welcoming online games I've played. That's not to say it's perfect (obviously), but Muse have got more right than they've done wrong, and I'm impressed by it.

Imagine:

--- Quote from: obliviondoll on July 10, 2014, 02:28:50 pm ---As for what I'd like to see, I think that players with only one role above level 4 should keep access to novice matches, BUT should be unable to select the higher-leveled role in novice matches, AND should be warned about the limitation and which role is unavailable when trying to load into a novice match.

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Yeah, this sort of thing has been suggested before, but a level, say, 10 something but lvl 1 in everything else is still going to be doing far and away better than most of completely new players just by the virtue of knowing the game better. There has to be a cutoff somewhere, too much can be abused otherwise.

That having been said, and I say this to everyone I meet, once you get your feet under you and get the basics of the games, I highly suggest moving out of novice games asap and into some higher level matches. If you're willing to listen and learn from those and ask intelligent questions from the more veteran players in the game, like 99% of the time they're incredibly excited and eager to share their knowledge with you, and that's when you really get into the meat of the game.

obliviondoll:
That's a good point.

Maybe your access to novice matches and to non-novice matches should be based on your total number of level-ups earned?

So when you start with only a total of level 3 (0 levels earned), you only have access to novice matches, but you unlock regular matches once you have 2 levels earned (total level = 5). As you level up, once you have 6 levels earned (total level 9 - minimum level required to guarantee at least one level 4 role), you should be locked out of novice matches. This means you could have two roles at level 3, and one at level 4, or you could have one role all the way up to level 7 and the others still at 1, or anything in between. An additional limit of being locked out of novice matches for a specific role when it reaches level 4 would be nice, imo, but possibly less necessary at that point.

Does that work better?

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