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New players in advanced matches
-Muse- Grimick:
--- Quote from: Gilder Unfettered on June 11, 2014, 02:00:33 am ---Could just give up on the Novice/Vet stuff and take it back to FFA. Then us vets can once again dine on the entrails of newbies while filling our goblets with their tears! Muahahahah!!
Or just give us an ejector seat button. Preferably linked to a gun that can fling them into our enemies when they give us any guff!
"Captain, they're firing noobs at us!"
"Very well, we'll respond in kind! Ready the noob thrower with Noobmuffins and Mr.HugNnoob!"
"Loading up! You may want to block list them now sir, their profanity arming timers are already going off!"
"Excellent, fire the noobs at will!"
--- End quote ---
This is clearly the new meta.
My crew and I discuss this all the time, and I think we have found a secondary use for the harpoon gun.
Just put the noob on the pooner, and fire him off the ship! :D
(also works with trolls, singers and your friends)
For a possible, serious solution. The lobby creation menu could have an option to filter out novices.
That way if you want a novice free game, you can host it without shattering the community.
If new players want to play with experienced friends it's still possible, but then the rest of us can play in actual "advanced" matches.
An interesting thought.
RomanKar:
Let's look at this from a different angle.
How much time did we veterans spend in Novice matches? I'd say I maybe spent 1 or 2 matches there, max. You don't sharpen steel with steel. Novice matches can actually be a breeding ground for terrible habits. What exactly is a noob supposed to learn from a noob?
In my humble opinion, you either have the disposition for this game, or you don't. You either want to cooperate, or you don't. For every terrible non listening noob who buffs the aft gun on a pyri or refuses to "just shoot the darn enemy" or "please repair the hull" there are equal amounts of people who genuinely want to learn and be an important part of the team.
Ask yourself, "How did I learn this game?"; "What was it that really got me hooked on this game?"
I'd be willing to bet my jazz music that the answers to either of those questions is not Novice Games.
Mean Machine:
--- Quote from: RomanKar on July 11, 2014, 07:14:19 pm ---Let's look at this from a different angle.
How much time did we veterans spend in Novice matches? I'd say I maybe spent 1 or 2 matches there, max. You don't sharpen steel with steel. Novice matches can actually be a breeding ground for terrible habits. What exactly is a noob supposed to learn from a noob?
In my humble opinion, you either have the disposition for this game, or you don't. You either want to cooperate, or you don't. For every terrible non listening noob who buffs the aft gun on a pyri or refuses to "just shoot the darn enemy" or "please repair the hull" there are equal amounts of people who genuinely want to learn and be an important part of the team.
Ask yourself, "How did I learn this game?"; "What was it that really got me hooked on this game?"
I'd be willing to bet my jazz music that the answers to either of those questions is not Novice Games.
--- End quote ---
Most of veterans are playing this game for very long time, they started when no one was really much experienced.
I guess you would be surprised how I learned the basics - from novice matches, along with a little guide reading, doing tutorial and spending a little time in sandbox. I checked tutorial in game to see what are the weapons on my preset ship doing and then I went to novice match to try them out. I didn't bother with ammo tough, because I thought it's more important in normal matches and I was right. I was better off shooting with normal ammo than using other ammo that would do more bad than good.
I wanted to learn basics first, so I did and I haven't got any problems when I tried normal matches then, because when captain gave orders and advises, I understood what he's saying, because I knew the basics. When I try to tell my lvl 1 gunners and engineers what to do now, they are confused, because they have no idea even what mallet is. That is if they even listen, mostly they don't.
I am happy to help, but if you haven't done tutorial or you haven't payed attention to it, then you'll have hard time and I'm not going to explain every single person all the basics that they should know already, if they are joining normal match. Sorry, it's just too much and too many of them. Those lvl 1 players keep leaving and new ones are coming, match after match. Sorry, I want to play, not spend 50% time in lobby, because no one wants to listen to captain and change equippment, 30% in game telling them how things works and then only 20% playing, because we'll get destroyed, because no one knows what they are doing.
Sometimes I get a newbie that actually talks or at least reads the chat and he listens! And those players, I am very happy to help them!
Unfortunately, they are rare examples.
Dutch Vanya:
If you communicate. You are too good for novice matches.
-Muse- Grimick:
--- Quote from: RomanKar on July 11, 2014, 07:14:19 pm ---Let's look at this from a different angle.
How much time did we veterans spend in Novice matches? I'd say I maybe spent 1 or 2 matches there, max. You don't sharpen steel with steel. Novice matches can actually be a breeding ground for terrible habits. What exactly is a noob supposed to learn from a noob?
In my humble opinion, you either have the disposition for this game, or you don't. You either want to cooperate, or you don't. For every terrible non listening noob who buffs the aft gun on a pyri or refuses to "just shoot the darn enemy" or "please repair the hull" there are equal amounts of people who genuinely want to learn and be an important part of the team.
Ask yourself, "How did I learn this game?"; "What was it that really got me hooked on this game?"
I'd be willing to bet my jazz music that the answers to either of those questions is not Novice Games.
--- End quote ---
Woah. You're Jazz music? Herdcore bet.
You are absolutely right. I liked the game as a novice.
But I got hooked when I played on Zincathalon's ship and actually learned the full depth of the game.
It was like turning the corner and BOOM. Lights everywhere. Yummy happy victory lights.
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