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Medium Weapons, Anyone?
Sprayer:
--- Quote from: The Djinn on October 23, 2013, 02:25:45 pm ---[...]
Balloon: 173 (Heavy Carronade) vs. 158 (Light Carronade)
Hull: 158 (Heavy Flak) vs 158 (Mortar)
Guns/Engines: 232 (Lumberjack Heavy Mortar) vs 112 (Mercury Field Gun)
Armor: 48 (Heavy Carronade) vs 60 (Gatling)
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DPS with reload? Also, if you actually manage that dps with LJ against engines and guns, hats off to you. That's because the LJ AoE deals no damage at all against those and I'd love to see anybody who can reliably hit guns and engines with it.
--- Quote from: Van Manfred on October 23, 2013, 03:52:01 pm ---[...]
Largely, but not totally. The lumberjack and heavy flak only arm after some distance (like the Field gun), and if they're mounted on a Spire or Galleon, your adversary chooses the range most of the time.
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Field gun has no arming time.
--- Quote from: Van Manfred on October 23, 2013, 03:52:01 pm ---[...]
A Gatling with heavies at short range is a scalpel; I have successfully disarmed all the guns on all types of ship, many times. It is fast, precise, has a large clip and is especially good at busting guns. Engines? I don't know that much, since when a ship's guns are disabled I switch to charged and finish the hull.
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A really slow and rusty scalpel. ~12 shots for light guns and engines, ~14 for medium guns and heavy engines. +3-5 shots to get zeroed in. +3-5 shots bacause unexpected movement of your pilots hand turns off your shots. Congrats, you wasted half your heavy clip for a gun with wich you could have stripped the armor instead.
All medium guns need higher skill but also get you a higher reward, deal with it.
Van Manfred:
--- Quote from: Alistair MacBain on October 23, 2013, 04:10:43 pm ---See? You dont take the argument of experienced players.
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What makes "u" think that?
--- Quote ---The medium guns are mostly sniper weapons. There is nth comparing with that range and dmg. If you ever see what a hflak can do with a unarmored hull u see how good it is.
A lumberjack takes balloons for breakfasts.
Sure u need good gunners on them. Thats why u barely see them. Or at least used to their real potential.
A good hwacha gunner will take out ur whole ship in one volley.
A hcarro will twoshot ur balloon and kill ur hull rly fast if u hit right with it.
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Funny, that, the sheer amount of weapons 'n' gunners who casually "one-shots" ships around here. Apart for some early game ambushes, I rarely see any ship being "one-shotted" in a fight... must be because all the 80% accuracy gunners are here instead of on the game. In fact, nearly all the "one-shot" kills I ever saw were on these boards.
Don't think that because I am no achievment farmer I have no experience with the game. That would suspiciously sounds like a challenge, sir.
--- Quote ---But as u will not take our arguments go ahead and do whatever u want.
Or watch some competetive matches and see what good players can do with heavy guns.
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They can do the very same thing they do with the light ones - destroy ennemy ships.
The Djinn:
--- Quote from: Sprayer on October 23, 2013, 04:36:48 pm ---DPS with reload? Also, if you actually manage that dps with LJ against engines and guns, hats off to you. That's because the LJ AoE deals no damage at all against those and I'd love to see anybody who can reliably hit guns and engines with it.
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That is with reload accounted for, yes. It deals a staggering 600 damage per shot to components. That said...yeah, it's hard to hit non-balloon components.
--- Quote from: Van Manfred on October 23, 2013, 04:49:57 pm ---What makes "u" think that?
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Probably from your apparently dismissal of the discussion points of, to name a few, Captain Smollet and Sprayer, an incredibly experienced Captain and Gunner (respectively).
Sprayer:
It's 100 damage per shot to guns and engines (50 base, mod is 2) Djinn, 600 if all shots of the clip hit.
@Van Manfred, I don't need to look at your level to know you are inexperienced and don't want to learn at all. Reading your answeres here is enough.
Alistair MacBain:
Well i dont think you have seen any competetive match at all. And no it is not about achievment farming. It is about experience and actual skill.
Youre only 4 4 3. So shouldnt be to long i think that u left novice matches. And a pub will never utilize longrange to its fullest.
Pub games are totally different from actual highlvl / competetive games. The thing why ppl barely use med weapons besides the hcarro are their relative high skillminimum to utilize.
Watch some paddling or gents matches and then see what good gunners can do with a medium weapon.
The reason u barely see this in normal games is the fact that not many pubs can time their shot.
Pub is mainly brawl based game. Seen any sniper galleon pilot rly park his galleon getting assisted by his ally? Probably not.
And another part is. We probably have played the game way longer than you. We might know what a gun can rly do and we might also see it doing it in several more situations.
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