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Offline RearAdmiralZill

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2013, 05:51:37 pm »
The Spire tournament was Aug 3rd. The competitive scene post was the 5th.

And if you are implying that the front page post started it, there is no wording in there to suggest that. The closest is this :

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We’ll be hosting a kickoff event over the livestream of Qwerty2Jam next Friday, 8/9, at 3pm Eastern to chat with everyone and celebrate.  The full rules have been posted here.

A kickoff event would mean it starts on or after this date.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2013, 06:05:41 pm by RearAdmiralZill »

Offline Captain Smollett

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2013, 06:02:00 pm »
It Starts now!

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The System is live as of this moment so if I get a screenshot of two clans fighting 5 minutes from now it counts if they want it to.
Remember to send in the screenshots to competitive@musegames.com ~Morbie

But I too remember this going up after the Spire tournement

Offline naufrago

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2013, 06:06:56 pm »
Sounds like a bit of miscommunication between keyvias and morbie?

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2013, 06:12:56 pm »
Honestly, I wasn't even aware of this post until during the stream today. I voiced my concerns about it. Honestly, I feel things might work out a little better if the points were reset and we kicked off this new system with a new major event. Squash had some really nice ideas during the stream.

Seeing as how the ducks are currently in first place, and will be hosting a this major event. How do the ducks feel about a point reset for this system and start it off fresh with your event?

Offline Gok Wan

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2013, 08:41:57 pm »
If it only started today and the ducks have 8 points?

Edit- nvm only saw this today after i saw there was a stream.
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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2013, 09:04:09 pm »
It didn't start today.

It Starts now!

The Ducks have played and won three scrimmages since then.

But what I find strange is that the results from last week's Spire tournament are being included...


Offline Brick Hardcastle

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2013, 10:08:48 pm »
I thought competitive GOI was headed in the right direction with the individual events themselves being the focus, but it seems that has changed.

I addressed my concerns with the old CESports "points-for-participation" system very extensively in discussion threads and skype conversations. If you want to see my thoughts more extensively anyone can go back and check them. I am exasperated and saddened at the thought of having to have the same arguments about an idea that I thought was safely dead and buried. To summarize: it burns out and/or alienates smaller clans, gives the advantage to clans that can play more, and is as such not legitimate as any sort of competition, let alone the focus of GOI competitive play.

On top of this, I can see no end of problems with clans bickering over what constitutes a scrimmage and a victory under this system. I also feel sorry for whatever two clans are going to have to ask for votes to compete in the tournament because they're latecomers or can't get together enough to grind points by constant scrimmaging.

It's very sad that this seems to be already underway when it really wouldn't be that hard to make a league where teams play an equal number of games, so numbers on the scoreboard would actually be meaningful and it would also make it fair on the smaller clans. Sure, it might not fill that desperate and inexplicable need to amalgamate all competitive play in GOI, but would that really be such a bad thing?

I'm probably not going to argue about this too much, because I already feel like I'm repeating myself, but I have to at least get my feelings about this out of my system, especially since I've spoken to many others who share my concerns.

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2013, 10:32:03 pm »
Yeah I don't see any reason to keep it in there, we didn't think the Spire tournament would be part of the system, so we're fine with redacting its points.

Offline Morbie

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #53 on: August 09, 2013, 11:08:44 pm »
Due to the extreme amount of confusing surrounding the spire tournament, we've taken the points out of the totals.

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2013, 12:06:19 am »
So, who did the Ducks beat for the 3rd point?

Also, as a note, they're still listed at 8 points in the clans/team sheet :)

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2013, 12:10:27 am »
Yes they are. I'm about to edit the entire thing back down.

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #56 on: August 10, 2013, 10:24:03 am »
Wait, why are all of the points gone now? We should still have three.

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #57 on: August 10, 2013, 01:43:45 pm »
Corvus have signed up.

I want to make it clear that we aren't interested in playing only point scrimmages. If you want a regular training match, we'd be willing to do that too.

Offline RearAdmiralZill

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #58 on: August 10, 2013, 09:40:41 pm »
So.

Cogs.

One point to MM, BFS, Ducks, yes?

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Re: The New Competitive Scene
« Reply #59 on: August 10, 2013, 10:15:11 pm »
Yeah I don't see any reason to keep it in there, we didn't think the Spire tournament would be part of the system, so we're fine with redacting its points.

I think there was a miscommunication following this post. Squash only meant the Spire tourney points, not, you know, the scrimmage points that we worked for.