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So, about those Double Hwachas

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Surette:

--- Quote from: Barujin on July 23, 2013, 02:38:46 pm ---I get what you're saying and I didn't feel insulted. This game just isn't for me. I suspect that much of the public might feel the way I do when they try GoIO, but that's my opinion. There's just so much strategy and teamwork involved that I'd rather play something else, instead.

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As frago said, you might enjoy gunner or engineer a bit more, since they require less tactics, but honestly the strategy and teamwork is why most of us love the game.  :)

Barujin:

--- Quote from: naufrago on July 23, 2013, 02:43:19 pm ---
--- Quote from: Barujin on July 23, 2013, 02:28:33 pm ---My main point is that my whole crew spent the entire time against this Galleon just repairing since it was reloaded and ready to fire again once our ship was fixed enough to fire back, disabling most of our ship... again. The weapon is simply poor design. It took a while for the Hwachas to destroy our ship, but they were content to wait since we literally couldn't go anywhere.

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Sounds like you're blaming the game instead of trying to learn from your experience. I know it's much easier to blame others and not yourself, but you can't get better if you don't place even the slightest fault on yourself. There are numerous things you could have differently that would help you avoid that situation. You could have used a different loadout or ship, you could have controlled your positioning and engage distance better, you could have coordinated with your ally better to get the galleon off you since that galleon definitely isn't going to be killing you quickly...

Just trying to help you, not insult you.


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You're basically using polite words to insult me. I've changed ships and loadouts non-stop with this game and I'm still not happy. Don't think for a second that I haven't considered what I'm doing wrong. That's all I've ever thought with this game. You don't know me, so don't try.

Imagine:

--- Quote from: Barujin on July 23, 2013, 02:28:33 pm ---My main point is that my whole crew spent the entire time against this Galleon just repairing since it was reloaded and ready to fire again once our ship was fixed enough to fire back, disabling most of our ship... again. The weapon is simply poor design. It took a while for the Hwachas to destroy our ship, but they were content to wait since we literally couldn't go anywhere.

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And our point is that your method of approach and gun choice was incorrect to fight what you're facing (honestly, double artemis is just not very optimal in any situation).

But hey, as you yourself said, the game isn't for everyone. Just keep in mind that learning games general will take a while, and you can't really expect to get a new one and be the best immediately ;)

HamsterIV:
It has been covered before, but never fight a galleon on its terms. The hwacha has pretty poor turning limits on both the lateral and vertical axises. Until you get close enough where your speed can outstrip the galleon's turning rate try to avoid fire on the vertical axis. That is approach the galleon too low or too high for either ships' guns to be effective. It is not easy but as the many other people in this thread have pointed out, it can be done.

If you do get into a situation where all your components are broken by the hwachas, you can try and rise or sink out of the situation (because your engines will most likely be broken). Tell your crew to prioritize hull and turning engines. Surviving continuous double hwacha attack is very difficult an it is best not to get into that situation to begin with.

Finally, every strategy you see an enemy do can be copied. Every gun and pilot tool is available at first level. With the exception of Muse Bubble's instakill enemy ship button (I kid) everything game mechanic wise the enemy has, you have.

Serenum:
Well, most of the times is not the loadout that's wrong but the way you fly the ship.
One error I see most inexperienced pilots do is getting too close to the enemy too fast. There's a reason why you have so many throttle settings.
This game has a lot of depth to it and most of the problems new players have are because of little things they overlook thinking that it won't make a difference.

Basically, get to know the weapons and try keeping the correct distance from your enemy instead of just charging in.

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