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Lumberjack Discussion
Linen:
Ofiach he was't talking about camping. Using a sniping weapon does not always equal camping. Don't attack the poor guy because he likes a different playstyle now and then.
Coldcurse:
whenver i think of the lumberjack, i think of aqua and phoebe.
Ofiach:
Now wait I didn't attack him but he said it's just a DPS race with the gat/flak, and that is an absolute fallacy. Brawling with these airships is an artform, just because one gun combo is better for brawling than alot of others doesn't make it a DPS race. Also IMO the gat/mortar is a better brawler build it just takes a special flying style and a special gunner to use.
Now maybe it came off as an attack but I'm sorry this game is about flying not sitting still in a corner with long range sniper weapons that outshine everything.
Machiavelliest:
--- Quote from: Machiavelliest on May 27, 2013, 07:28:38 am ---I'm going to throw out there that the disparity here might be that the Lumberjack is well-balanced for new gunners, but insanely deadly in the hands of experienced ones. Play with or against Charon or Kubitsuri on the Lumberjack and it really changes the dynamics of what the weapon is capable of.
I'd argue that the originally difficult technique of firing the weapon was used as a balancing factor. The baseline skill has improved for the weapon, and thus that balancing factor might be argued as not effective against well-trained gunners. The game stats aren't the only variable here--the skill level and composition of the community is changing, so the game must change to accomodate that.
Personally, I feel that a little balancing is needed to prevent very skilled Lumberjackers from being able to single-weapon kill so quickly against another target. The carronades pop balloons, but if you double up carronade, people don't die this fast, and it's much tougher to do that.
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Srsly guys.
Coldcurse:
--- Quote from: Machiavelliest on May 28, 2013, 06:15:14 am ---
--- Quote from: Machiavelliest on May 27, 2013, 07:28:38 am ---I'm going to throw out there that the disparity here might be that the Lumberjack is well-balanced for new gunners, but insanely deadly in the hands of experienced ones. Play with or against Charon or Kubitsuri on the Lumberjack and it really changes the dynamics of what the weapon is capable of.
I'd argue that the originally difficult technique of firing the weapon was used as a balancing factor. The baseline skill has improved for the weapon, and thus that balancing factor might be argued as not effective against well-trained gunners. The game stats aren't the only variable here--the skill level and composition of the community is changing, so the game must change to accomodate that.
Personally, I feel that a little balancing is needed to prevent very skilled Lumberjackers from being able to single-weapon kill so quickly against another target. The carronades pop balloons, but if you double up carronade, people don't die this fast, and it's much tougher to do that.
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Srsly guys.
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the lumberjack is a good balanced gun, you are just wanting its power lowered because you die too much.
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