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Just played a few matches with novice pilots - put up with more than a few awful builds, but they were communicative enough to be taught a decent layout (for a Galleon, at least).
I find it really fun giving the newbies encouragement and feedback. Even though we'll end up getting steamrollered, they'll learn a valuable lesson.

give this man a silver dollar.  i enjoy it for the most part as well.

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My argument on obligation to teach instead of wreck novice pilots goes only to those that want to expand the player base and elongate the game itself for as long as possible.  And seeing as most high level folks enjoy the game and keep coming back, it seems that is just the next logical step that needs to be taken in such a small player base.  Playing the same people over and over cant be the future of the game can it?  You may not have signed up to be the handy helper, but is it not implied by your participation in this game? 

The same people that want to play this game hardcore can also be killing it by getting tired of helping.  Take a break.  Step away.  But come back and try and help a few times here and there.  I find way too much stacking.  I know this.  Doesnt matter that Im writing this when I saw 3 games earlier 3v3 with every high level on one side and the highest on the other was 14.  Its gonna happen sometimes.  I'm just saying it shouldnt.  Helping in chat isnt the same as helping during the game.  Ill get off my soapbox now.  I see these things in game and I guess I want badly for this game to be above the rest of the garbage out there.  There's a certain feeling you get when you are behind the wheel and in the skies with your crew that denotes extreme responsibility in a game.  I like the idea of that responsibility to be with the community as well. 


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Ive been the noob.  Ive taught the noobs.  Im still learning from my own brotherhood.  No matter how many in here complain about novices flying, acting entitled to wreck novices, stack them, and not teach them is inappropriate at any time.   The game requires it.  Period.  Cannot be played and enjoyed by the masses if it is not done.  For example I just got wrecked several matches in a row by  SPQR while attempting to discuss things with a level 9 spire pilot.  It was good.  We discussed.  Learned.  The minute the match was over noone would be on his team.  Or co-captain.  The standard should be higher for this game and die hard player base.  Some long time pilots dont feel like teaching.  Fine.  Standown and let someone else on the crew do it.  Tell them little things at a time so they soak it in easier.  Dont need to explain a book.   If people dont wanna teach and just wanna wreck shit I dont think it should be against level 5 players or less.  Kinda seems pointless after the first game.  At least stay the next game and get on the same side.  Something.  Just imo.

I just realized reading my post that my mantra is "someone has to do it."   But if nobody does it where does that leave it?

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General Discussion / Re: Gush
« on: November 30, 2015, 06:42:32 pm »
Since when is it the responsibility for vets to train new players? Vets have a right to enjoy the game just as much as anyone else. Why should they have to sit there training new players just because they are vets? Why is their enjoyment in GOIO forever determined by everyone else just because they are vets? Are they getting paid for it?
 

Are you really enjoying the quick annihilation games?  Lets be honest here.  And the only responsibility Im talking about is for the longevity of the game.....this topic I speak of is really the main reason player base is reduced so fast.  imo.

Gamers are not going to abide by any social responsibility that you try to impose upon them. They are not here to hold your hand, wipe your ass, or burp you when you've had enough.

So you had to learn the hardway, good news, so did most of us. It is up to us to determine if and when we want to share that knowledge, not other people. If new players want to know, they can ask. Theres text and voice ability in GOIO. All they have to do is speak up. More than likely they'll find a lot of vets willing to talk if they do.

Youve hit the nail on the head of the problem.  Gamers are going to do what they want to do.  Being such a small community I guess my expectations are higher for what the veterans should be doing.  The standard should be higher.   I dont think team balancing is wiping ass either.  Its fair play.  More enjoyable.  You can play your way.  And the novices will learn more in that match thus retaining them for the future.  I know you and everyone else understands these concepts.  Just a matter of whos willing. 

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General Discussion / Re: Gush
« on: November 30, 2015, 04:36:58 am »
Its all a matter of perspective and timing.  Quite alot of veteran players have been giving advice from the other side of a stacked game.  This is not one, or two,  or three people.  This is just about every game I played since the most recent sale.   Its ok to give advice.  But to then commence to gat/mortar all noobs before they can execute any kind of maneuver until game end is counter productive.

Its an epidemic.  This is not a normal game.  Requires time, patience, knowledge, of which I think all veterans understand, but are not willing to go the extra mile to actually balance the teams.  Trial by fire is nice in theory, doesnt work for an online game of this nature.

I learned the hardway in Goio.  I have the patience.  Most do not.  Let the noobs breathe.  Join the noob team.  Put some effort in.

I do realize as well everyone may have played a game or two with a novices on their side at some point.  This doesnt absolve responsibility to the community on a day to day basis.  Just my thoughts.  Not trying to peeve anyone off.

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