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On the subject of vote kick...
Squidslinger Gilder:
--- Quote from: Richard LeMoon on November 17, 2016, 12:54:05 pm ---What if you had limited votes to kick per day/week? This would prevent spam kicking and make people think a bit more on how to best use their votes. I rarely feel the need to kick someone.
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I'd run out within 5 mins and then I'd just not play the game for a week until I got more. But I can guarantee, my crews that would stay would be the happiest crews in the world because I'd get rid of the trolls. Trolls should never be tolerated, just castrated and put into a tiny little box filled with other trolls where they'd proceed to fight each other to the death.
Vote kick being abused is worth having a vote kick. The alternative is what we have now. An unstable, flawed, system where there is no consequences for abusers. Don't dare bring up CAs or CA mods. They aren't always around, have no real power, and people figure that out really fast. It's like giving a police officer a rubber gun and then ask them to subdue a riot, then stand there with a smile, doing nothing, while the mob strips them naked and spray paints obscene art all over them.
RearAdmiralZill:
CA Mods do in fact have a stick to use, but nowhere is there a rule that states someone has to accept your "recommended" load-outs. As a veteran who has strict builds in play to maximize my boat's play, I can sympathize, but how far will kicking go?
The biggest issue here isn't even trolls. It's the design of Guns of Icarus (not a bad thing, I'm elaborating). What other game forces this much team play? Even "team-based" games allow individual players to shine. Guns puts a lot of pressure on a Captain to literally tell the three others to do x y and z. Beyond very structured raids, you just don't see this elsewhere, and people can do as they please, to a degree. A crew in Guns just can't do as they please and be at the top of their game, even going so far as to say it generally sucks when that goes on.You have a random person from the internet telling you orders and how to play. If you get the design of Guns, you're ok with this. Welcome to our community. Many don't.
Any system put into place can be then trolled. Required load outs? Troll captain puts useless tools. Kick functions? You're going to have cases where a decent person gets kicked because x y and z. No kicking? Trolls and decent people alike get berated and shunned for not doing something they "should." The low population can't sustain any of this, and people end up ditching it altogether.
Do I have a solution? Not really besides getting this design mentality across when I can. I realize the implications of keeping everything the same right now, but so far any solutions I've seen to the current issue of "rogue" players who are either trolling or not trusting some guy on the internet to order him around just hurt the system in play.
Niels Juel:
--- Quote from: Solidusbucket on November 16, 2016, 07:09:55 pm ---This system would be abused.
Alternative is to create a password lobby and invite people you know/trust.
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Which works oh so well with the number of players we have these days...
Byron Cavendish:
--- Quote from: Squidslinger Gilder on November 17, 2016, 07:17:36 pm ---
--- Quote from: Richard LeMoon on November 17, 2016, 12:54:05 pm ---What if you had limited votes to kick per day/week? This would prevent spam kicking and make people think a bit more on how to best use their votes. I rarely feel the need to kick someone.
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I'd run out within 5 mins and then I'd just not play the game for a week until I got more. But I can guarantee, my crews that would stay would be the happiest crews in the world because I'd get rid of the trolls. Trolls should never be tolerated, just castrated and put into a tiny little box filled with other trolls where they'd proceed to fight each other to the death.
Vote kick being abused is worth having a vote kick. The alternative is what we have now. An unstable, flawed, system where there is no consequences for abusers. Don't dare bring up CAs or CA mods. They aren't always around, have no real power, and people figure that out really fast. It's like giving a police officer a rubber gun and then ask them to subdue a riot, then stand there with a smile, doing nothing, while the mob strips them naked and spray paints obscene art all over them.
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IS anyone else aroused?
The Mann:
If you ever need me in game when I am not there, Ask to add me on steam or ask for a mod in their discord.
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