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The Everyone Think Really Hard And Make Rangefinder Useful Thread
OverlordEgg:
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 08, 2016, 09:43:30 am ---
--- Quote from: OverlordEgg on March 08, 2016, 09:11:08 am ---So I've been thinking, how about this new idea: There are shot-path indicators you see before the shot, or tracer paths you see after the shot-
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instant no.
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I've tried so hard to keep everyone's thoughts in mind and keep this as reasonable and diplomatic a debate as I possibly can despite everything. Now I know you have a reputation to keep up, but you could try to not be an asshat for the maybe one minute it would take you to read the whole thing. Maybe you'll be surprised, maybe you won't. Who fuckin knows.
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: OverlordEgg on March 08, 2016, 09:48:39 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 08, 2016, 09:43:30 am ---
--- Quote from: OverlordEgg on March 08, 2016, 09:11:08 am ---So I've been thinking, how about this new idea: There are shot-path indicators you see before the shot, or tracer paths you see after the shot-
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instant no.
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I've tried so hard to keep everyone's thoughts in mind and keep this as reasonable and diplomatic a debate as I possibly can despite everything. Now I know you have a reputation to keep up, but you could try to not be an asshat for the maybe one minute it would take you to read the whole thing. Maybe you'll be surprised, maybe you won't. Who fuckin knows.
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I wasn't surprised. Its you elaborating on an idea from the core concept (the above quoted text). And frankly I wasted my time reading the elaboration since it still uses said quoted text as the basis.
OverlordEgg:
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on March 08, 2016, 10:05:10 am ---I wasn't surprised. Its you elaborating on an idea from the core concept (the above quoted text). And frankly I wasted my time reading the elaboration since it still uses said quoted text as the basis.
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It's a compromise. An attempt to find a way to make everyone happy without sacrificing my own position completely. If you want this to proceed, you could tell why you don't agree, suggest a change in the idea, suggest a change of direction of thought, maybe even suggest your own idea. Honestly there are countless ways this discussion could go, but instead you decide to act like a bullheaded child. Do people actually take you seriously? At least I'm trying to stay diplomatic and peaceful and consider other people's thoughts. For instance, even YOURS. You thought it would be overpowered for the gunner to simply see the shot path? So I nerfed it by making them rely on another to tell them.
Or we could, you know, just shoot down each other's ideas without giving them a chance. That's how things get done.
Solidusbucket:
--- Quote ---Or we could, you know, just shoot down each other's ideas without giving them a chance. That's how things get done.
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--- Quote ---Shoot down each other's ideas.
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Lol.
Anyways i agree with jazz. I do not like the idea of tracers because it seems bulky at best. As you said, all the guns that would need it already have tracers.
As far as showing a shot indicator / path i kinda like it. It would offer some extra communication and guarantee a first hit at the expense of some time.
My only objection is it would honestly make the guns OP. Lumberjack and hades are already very powerful if the shooter gets the beat on a ship in that first or second shot. Being able to spam their first volley would honestly break balance imo. It sucks as it is going against the top tier gunners and even they usually miss their first shot.
The Djinn:
Hm. What about a pilot tool usable whole on a gun (via an extra inventory button) that shows the range to target constantly (whenever on gun) and, when active, allows you to fire shots with whatever the guns current ammo is at 100% - 300% firing rate, but shows hit indicators and projectiles only to you and deals no damage.
Swapping to it wouldn't change the "actual" reload or firing rate of the gun.
So gunners could take it to figure out shot trajectory, firing test shots before switching back to actual ammo.
It's a bit weird, but it might work.
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