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Dutch Vanya:
Isn't this the mark of a well balanced game? If there is no obvious best build?

Dementio:

--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on September 07, 2015, 04:41:38 pm ---Isn't this the mark of a well balanced game? If there is no obvious best build?

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The Meta, as I described it, consists of ships excelling in general. Once you go a little bit more specific other ships can dominate.

Example: Squid beats Mobula, but Squid isn't Meta.

But that is just a direct hardcounter. The effectiveness of the Meta also shifts depending on what team has more control of the battlefield or has a direct positional advantage. I am thinking about teams ambushing their enemy or charging at them in formation before the enemy has the chance to think something up.

Example: The Spire can beat pretty much every ship, long range and close range, but that doesn't make the Spire Meta either.

But a Spire with Gatlings, Mortars and a Hwacha would just make a better Metamidion, so are there obvious best gun builds? Same as the above: Gatlings combined with Mortars and Hadeses combined with Artemis is just general.

Ignoring distinctive ship attributes, Example: Gat/Artemis beats Gat/Mortar.

And then we can apply the above logic of control and position again and the example can be turned around.



So what I am trying to say here is that there are obvious best builds in general, but it doesn't mean that they always win.

Example from a scrim of Rydr vs. Mad Hatters (a Gent team) a long while ago: Their Metagalleon beats my favourite Mobula, two matches in a row on Fjords.

There is no best best build, because victory and defeat depend on a lot more factors than just bringing a general ship.

BlackenedPies:
Good description

Dryykon:

--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on September 07, 2015, 04:41:38 pm ---Isn't this the mark of a well balanced game? If there is no obvious best build?

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Games that are fairly balanced typically have a meta. These metas almost always change over time. Typically it goes: a good player/team in pub games/competitive uses a certain ship very well. Others copy the build/gameplay style and it's considered a meta.

An example of this is after a popular LoL contest ends, the characters on the winning team are played significantly more afterwards. Over time, builds/styles that beat the meta will arise, and eventually become the new meta. There are other reasons meta's occur, but in competitive, this is usually the reason. As a newer player, if I see a ship being used effectively, I typically copy it and test it out. I imagine many new-mid level players do this.

It's also interesting to note the difference between public server meta's (pub-stomping) and competitive meta's. Though, I usually go for the "easiest for noobs to understand" ship rather than the meta. :p



Hunter.:

--- Quote from: Dryykon on September 08, 2015, 02:38:02 pm ---
It's also interesting to note the difference between public server meta's (pub-stomping) and competitive meta's. Though, I usually go for the "easiest for noobs to understand" ship rather than the meta. :p


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An example of this in action - is taking a carronade and flamethrower in a pub game over a gatling and mortar. This is because my definition of a "meta" is: The easiest to execute strategy to yield the highest winrate. In a pub game my crew may not know to break hull before firing a mortar, and in the same vein the enemy crew may not have good chem spray rotations, therefore the simplest method to win would be to disable with fire and fire carronades (carronades being effective anywhere they hit; disabling equipment or popping balloons). Whereas in a competitive game the meta would be something harder to execute with as few counters as possible - such as a mobula with both long and short range weapons resulting in a ship which is usable in most situations (easy to execute) and has a high winrate (main counter is a much harder to execute ship, or "out of meta").

However, as more people get better at using the squid - the squid becomes easier and easier to execute resulting in a new meta arising - and when the squid meta finally comes trust me, I will be there on the front lines #Squid4Life.

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