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What is keeping novices in novice?
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Lanliss on March 02, 2015, 12:19:57 pm ---I am fine with novices being locked in novice, as they do need to learn the game. To address your issue Imagine I have recommended they be able to get invited to advanced matches, thus allowing them to play with their friends. I do not believe there should be any penalties on playing in adcanced matches, even though a lot of people seem to lean towards the "punish novices for being novice" ideas. I just believe that there should be something to keep them in the classroom until they show they have learned enough to be of actual use in a real game. Otherwise they might as well go to the Guns equivalent of Macdonald's.
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I JUST SUGGESTED THAT ON THE FIRST PAGE!
DJ Logicalia:
I'm really feeling an "Us vs. Them" mentality here. The whole
--- Quote ---It's exactly why the AI clan is very exclusive when it comes to inviting noobs.
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idea is very troubling to me as an attitude. Put simply, with out new people coming in, this game dies, and I don't want this game to die. The Bards add novices and low level players all the time because our officers see the potential in people to not only be cool cats, but to also someday be good at this game.
Compared to a lot, this game is very complicated and I don't fault people for not understanding it right away like it seems some are. I have a ton of patience with new people and really only get upset when they are actively ignoring me or telling me I'm wrong. Even then, I explain the them why I'm not wrong and why pipe wrench mallet is a terrible combo.
TL;DR Stop discriminating against people based on level or match total. Stop creating false barriers between novices and "vets" (which is a term I hate by the way). We're all playing this game together and we might as well try and make it a good experience for everyone
Ayetach:
--- Quote from: DJ Logicalia on March 02, 2015, 12:58:45 pm ---Stop discriminating against people based on level or match total. Stop creating false barriers between novices and "vets" (which is a term I hate by the way). We're all playing this game together and we might as well try and make it a good experience for everyone
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I couldn't agree more with this. Although realistically its easy for all of us even the cool-headed to lose ourselves to these stats from time to time. However, the bottom line is that levels mean little when it comes to how well each players personality is to meshing in a teamwork environment.
BlackenedPies:
If you communicate well you'll find the vast majority of novices to be perfectly acceptable and pleasant crews. If you don't communicate then expect nothing and don't blame them. If they screw up and you die, so what. Explain the mistake and move on. No one wants an unpleasant or disrespectful captain. Expect them to suck and you'll receive as much.
There is a problem with newer players in advanced matches, like readying up with any crew config. This is a separate issue and unrelated to novices with experienced captains. They're not "thick as bricks", they're just new players to wanting to have fun. Sticking them full time on repairs isn't exactly fun.
Guns of Icarus is a good platform for giving guidance and teaching new players. Treating them like they're dumb with "no ability to learn" is a bad experience to any player who's new to a game. A captain who's quiet until you screw up is disheartening. If you go in with a good attitude just to have fun then your crew will too.
MidnightWonko:
How many players are in this multiplayer game? Like 400 max and 80 min, with a one-time spike of 800 during a sale? Do any of you expect that to last forever? When there's few players online, novices will either have wickedly long queue times or be placed in matches with far-more experienced players. Which do you guys seriously consider the lesser of the two evils? Separating the two forcefully only serves to divide an already tiny community. If newbies are only trickling in and can't play any matches because there aren't any other newbies, the community will perish.
To that end, I asset that playing in novice matches should be a newbie's PREROGATIVE. Not their REQUIREMENT.
Also, there's more to learn faster in regular matches, and some people just click that way; those are the people who will be frustrated by the empty grinding forced upon them by novices before they can play the fun part of the game. Must they seriously be forbidden? I thought Guns of Icarus was a game. Not a job!
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