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Pyramidion needs more love?

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Indreams:
I fly other ships. Lately, I've got a lot of fun out of the mobula.

But each ship is unique. You can't get the same experience out of a goldfish as you do from a spire.

Pyra has that unique, fighter-plane feel. Recently, that seems lacking.

ShadedExalt:

--- Quote from: Indreams on January 24, 2015, 04:05:24 pm ---I fly other ships. Lately, I've got a lot of fun out of the mobula.

But each ship is unique. You can't get the same experience out of a goldfish as you do from a spire.

Pyra has that unique, fighter-plane feel. Recently, that seems lacking.

--- End quote ---

Uniqueness, that's exactly it.  It's why the non-Pyra players play Junkers, or Spires, or Goldfish... It's about the feel.

Hillerton [PC]:
So I haven't read all of this so this might have been said (also yes I'm very lazy when coming in to a thread like this), but in my personal experience the only thing that makes a pyra "OP" is that they have the easiest crewing. In the most basic flying of a pyramidion every single person on the ship have a designated task and only one, the pilot flies, the gunner mans only one gun, one engineer man the other and one engineer repair the hull and engines. This leads to it being "OP" in pub games and even some semi skilled games as everyone can focus on their task. This makes it a very easy ship to work with, leading to other ships (where the division is not as simple) being harder to use and therefor seen as weaker.

To back up this clam I want to point to the mobula. It lies just behind the pyra in almost all stat (not vertical movement and turning but nvm those). The mobula also have the capability to use 3 light guns at any given time. Yet I know only one person who admits to it being op, this is due to the engineers and pilot needing more awareness to use the ship as well as more teamwork over all.

Based on this a nerf would probably leave it with the squid, usable but for very specific and rare occasions... Not to mention remove one of the few ships a group of new players can use efficiently.

tl;dr pyra is not op just easy to crew making it a pub-stomper.

Dutch Vanya:
Just reminding the forum goers that it might not be OP in the grand scheme of things, but if it's a 'pubstomper', then it is OP for most people who play this game. You say it is just "easy to crew" but that basically means it is OP for 3 of the 4 players using it, right? The practicality of crewing these ships is a very important part of the balance.

Replaceable:
Dammit, the age old conundrum. The masses vs. the vets.

Hate it when it boils down to this. Look at matchmaker.

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