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Version 1.3.8 Hotfix Release Notes
Tanya Phenole:
I believe, that level hiding is a healthy initiative. Please, remove levels from chat too.
Captain-suggested loadouts are an amazing initiative too. Please, make it more visible for new captains. Like huge button "set loadouts" and "Give loadouts to crew" in ship customisation OR near the ready button.
For the little community and playerbase, matchmaking works fine. Really. I know about 2-3 gunners problem, but it is not that huge. Yes, people leave the game in middle, to find their fun in a different match. It is probably a good idea to motivate them to fight untill the end. Like giving a drop of small cosmetic items in the end. More kills, fires, repairs, rebuilds - more chance for drop of something cool =)
I will not suggest the bug fixing, they have been reported multiple times and I know, that unlike other game's developers, Muse working hard on their removal at first priority.
And please, veteran players, don't be so arrogant. To Muse, to newcomers, to the game. Basically, you are only one power to improve the game or (more likely) destroy it.
Schwalbe:
About arrogance of veterans... I wouldn't call that arrogance. I'd rather say they are conservative. They are used to a system, that had it's flaws, but was more or less working quite well. But it was helpful in building community.
I supposed the best thing that was said about veterans' attitude was said by (I believe) KitKatKitty, some posts earlier, maybe even not in this thread (I keep losing the track, I'm sorry). They seem arrogant and hostile towards new patch because they put LOADS OF time to play it, get experience, learn it's mechanics and improve their strategies and skills. They earned level, and they sometimes boast about them - and mostly it's absolutely justified (not always however), because they spent much of their important lifetime on this game. They LOVED this game. Now they feel betrayed.
That's all I can say. Some users expressed my thoughts 'bout all this case better than me.
KitKatKitty:
--- Quote ---I supposed the best thing that was said about veterans' attitude was said by (I believe) KitKatKitty, some posts earlier, maybe even not in this thread (I keep losing the track, I'm sorry).
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Yes it was this thread on page 4. It is rather long but I do think it conveys a lot of the veterans feelings and why this has became such a controversy.
--- Quote ---I believe, that level hiding is a healthy initiative. Please, remove levels from chat too.
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As much as I think it could be healthy as far as people not judging players based on their level. I don't actually think hiding the levels benefits the community nor game over all. Reasoning: It does help new players to see who has been in this game for a long time to get help and instruction from them on load outs and play styles. I've heard a lot of newer players "suggesting" load outs but aren't actually right or there are better load outs that could be taken that they haven't learned yet. Also, regardless of what people say, levels do help with figuring out how stacked a lobby will be and if Veteran players can "balance" the lobby....I do NOT think the leveling system is the problem here. So, I would suggest going back to showing the levels in game like we had during the 1.3.8 patch and BEFORE the hotfix.
I agree with geo on this.
--- Quote ---3) Novices + Vets (stacked) > Not fun for anyone
4) Novices + Vets (interspersed) > Not fun/frustrating for 50% of the people.
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We have all seen it happen many times before.
As far as the actual problem for these patches, the matchmaking system
--- Quote ---For the little community and playerbase, matchmaking works fine.
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I'm not sure how you can think it "works fine" with our small community. I actually feel like playing in game with you soon to see if when you match make it's better than the experiences myself and many others have had.
--- Quote ---Honestly, I would be voting for a downgrade to patch 1.3.7, because lobbies were working QUITE well - they were not anyhow brilliant, but I prefer spending time with other players and talking with them rather than being thrown into another match, because I haven't checked one bloody radiobutton.
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At this point, I might agree. I wouldn't mind having the lobby system that was in 1.3.7 (since I hadn't seen a problem with it before) BUT keep the Captain recommended load outs AND the new leveling system from 1.3.8. (not 1.3.8 hotfix).
As it stands if I'm playing with 4+ friends or clan mates, we are just using custom lobbies because in the que our wait time has been 18mins, 21mins, 28mins, and 23mins. We could have played a match or 2 by then and it allows us to balance our own lobbies.
--- Quote --- that unlike other game's developers, Muse working hard on their removal at first priority.
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I completely agree with this statement! Muse is an amazing game developer which is why so many Veterans care soooo much.
macmacnick:
We give harsh criticisms BECAUSE WE CARE! If we didn't care, we'd be saying "meh." And walking away.
Keyvias:
Despite the heated comments from both sides I have no doubt everyone here's goal is a great Guns of Icarus.
A quick side note, have you guys seen Omniraptor's idea.
We've been talking about it around the office this morning as a way to push more people into queue thus creating better matches while still letting fun rounds keep going.
Would love to hear everyone's thoughts.
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