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[Commander] Sanity keeper - Improved block function & /kick
Pickle:
No kick of any kind.. I think most of the active community have been against any sort of kick option from the start.
I'm not sure if griefing is any more or less prevalent now than it was a couple of months ago. Something that hasn't changed though is the periodic mic bug where one player on a team is effectively inside their own comms bubble and can't hear anyone else's mic or be heard themselves. I've had that happen a few times to me, and been able to establish that it's happened to a crew member - in which case we make sure someone transcribes the essentials so s/he can follow what's being said. It would be very easy for a new player to fall into the comms bubble bug and not realise it was happening, s/h could then find themselves being repeatedly kicked from games for no apparent reason and be left thinking the game was played by antisocial types.
Some sort if beefed up block would be better, as I suggested up the thread.
(incidentally, the only fix for the comms bubble bug is to close down the game and restart - sometimes you may need to close down Steam and restart that as well)
nake:
--- Quote from: Helmic on April 02, 2013, 06:04:23 am ---Well, part of the problem with votekicking is that with a bit of social engineering you can con people into voting off anyone. I have a friend that regularly wipes out entire Gmod RP servers just by tricking people into kicking each other.
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Wait, there is still people that plays gmod? xDD
However, as I said in my post, the only option you'd have is to votekick people in your crew and/or in your team.
If it's your crew, they all have to agree. You can only do that social engineering thing with newbies and kids, and I can't see an scenario where all your crew/team members are newbies AND someone wants to kick one of them because he is low-level. See what I mean?
I can't see this happening with, let's say, lvl5~8 people in your crew.
I've played gmod a lot, usually SP or in private servers because people in public servers where mostly mingebags, noobs, or just too young kids. This game it's different (or at least I hope so xD).
Helmic:
--- Quote from: Hubert PIckle on April 02, 2013, 06:16:58 am ---No kick of any kind.. I think most of the active community have been against any sort of kick option from the start.
I'm not sure if griefing is any more or less prevalent now than it was a couple of months ago. Something that hasn't changed though is the periodic mic bug where one player on a team is effectively inside their own comms bubble and can't hear anyone else's mic or be heard themselves. I've had that happen a few times to me, and been able to establish that it's happened to a crew member - in which case we make sure someone transcribes the essentials so s/he can follow what's being said. It would be very easy for a new player to fall into the comms bubble bug and not realise it was happening, s/h could then find themselves being repeatedly kicked from games for no apparent reason and be left thinking the game was played by antisocial types.
Some sort if beefed up block would be better, as I suggested up the thread.
(incidentally, the only fix for the comms bubble bug is to close down the game and restart - sometimes you may need to close down Steam and restart that as well)
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We'll have to assume that any relevant bugs are going to be fixed. More pressing than that is the language barrier (and the people with fake Russian accents using it as a cover), there's people who legitimately can't understand you and there's people who pretend they can't understand you to avoid any possible moderation troubles.
--- Quote from: nake on April 02, 2013, 06:21:20 am ---
--- Quote from: Helmic on April 02, 2013, 06:04:23 am ---Well, part of the problem with votekicking is that with a bit of social engineering you can con people into voting off anyone. I have a friend that regularly wipes out entire Gmod RP servers just by tricking people into kicking each other.
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Wait, there is still people that plays gmod? xDD
However, as I said in my post, the only option you'd have is to votekick people in your crew and/or in your team.
If it's your crew, they all have to agree. You can only do that social engineering thing with newbies and kids, and I can't see an scenario where all your crew/team members are newbies AND someone wants to kick one of them because he is low-level. See what I mean?
I can't see this happening with, let's say, lvl5~8 people in your crew.
I've played gmod a lot, usually SP or in private servers because people in public servers where mostly mingebags, noobs, or just too young kids. This game it's different (or at least I hope so xD).
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Well, let's take a four man ship. You're there to be an asshole, one guy is competent, and you've got two retards. You put up a votekick for the competent guy, con the retards into voting for him for as much of a bullshit reason as you can manage, rinse and repeat with one of the retards, proceed to grief the everliving shit out of the survivor. If someone new comes in, pretend it was the other guy that's causing trouble so you can "finally" votekick him, repeat as desired. If you're coming in with a buddy, you can take over any ship you want.
Lord Dick Tim:
I'm opposed to vote kicking as I rarely ever need to kick somebody. I've had bad crews and fellow captains for sure, but they are never around long enough to make things difficult. And the few glaringly bad players I've had join up I've had some success teaching them how to play.
But my opinion is also heavily bias, I rarely play anything other then captain, so I don't get bad captains, I've got a patience that is longer then most trolls have the energy to wear thin, and when I do have a troll I go all harpoon squid and rock it.
No kick option, cause I loose my harpoon squid. Love that ship.
nake:
--- Quote from: Helmic on April 02, 2013, 06:30:43 am ---Well, let's take a four man ship. You're there to be an asshole, one guy is competent, and you've got two retards. You put up a votekick for the competent guy, con the retards into voting for him for as much of a bullshit reason as you can manage, rinse and repeat with one of the retards, proceed to grief the everliving shit out of the survivor. If someone new comes in, pretend it was the other guy that's causing trouble so you can "finally" votekick him, repeat as desired. If you're coming in with a buddy, you can take over any ship you want.
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Hmm... Good point.
I was think in why would he do that, he looses his crew, so he plays alone. Which I suspect won't be fun for a troll. But then, they are trolls, so they don't need a reason to do that kind of stuff.
So maybe you were right and there should not be an option to vote-kick.
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