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Should Competitive Matches move toward Capture Point?
Queso:
Dota suffers a similar fate called rat dodo where teams just push towers and back off whenever a fight is about to happen. It was nearly unbeatable a year ago, but the best team in the game last year just got knocked out of The International this year because people have learned how to deal with it. Boring games happen, even in real sports.
Sammy B. T.:
Same disclaimer that Ali put up a bit back, this... is personal.
Competitive labyrinth games are my FAVORITE! However, it is the only 2v2 CP. If there were more 2v2 CP maps then I'd definitely say throw all maps into the pool for a general tournament. However, with only having one, having that slight chance to have to play a game completely different than everyone else is patently unfair. While my old team the Brood was going through major restructuring, we were able to stay pretty high up in Cogs one week as we got Labyrinth and I just got onto the point and didn't die.Valid strategy of course, but completely different skill set than DM.
Imagine:
--- Quote from: Queso on July 13, 2014, 10:47:00 am ---Dota suffers a similar fate called rat dodo where teams just push towers and back off whenever a fight is about to happen. It was nearly unbeatable a year ago, but the best team in the game last year just got knocked out of The International this year because people have learned how to deal with it. Boring games happen, even in real sports.
--- End quote ---
This was going to be my point as well.
As the person who had to cast the match which brought this up in the first place, while it was unfortunate, these things happen. I watch an excessive amount of esports, whether it's something like Starcraft or DOTA, and there are times when some matches just make you want to go to sleep. I don't think it's too big of a deal honestly, and in a stretch of 7 weeks, this was the first time it happened. Personally I think if we wanted to make sure that never happened again we should just remove Dunes from the competitive map pool.
Now, if we're talking about making a Capture Point tournament, I'm intrigued by it for sure, just wish there was more than just Labs for 2v2 point.
Thomas:
The map is irrelevant really. We've seen this happen on other maps as well. Including Paritan and Duel at Dawn. Realistically it comes down to the teams and their playstyle.
I don't think this means that DM itself or any particular map is broken/boring when it comes to competitive play. If teams don't want to be aggressive, they're just not going to be aggressive. And this very well could lead to two teams who are less interested in winning than they are with not losing.
Imagine:
--- Quote from: Thomas on July 13, 2014, 03:10:50 pm ---The map is irrelevant really. We've seen this happen on other maps as well. Including Paritan and Duel at Dawn. Realistically it comes down to the teams and their playstyle.
--- End quote ---
Yes, while it can and has happened before, nearly all Dunes matches are of the long drawn out sniping matches which has led to more time limits being reached than any other map.
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