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Coldcurse:

--- Quote from: Sammy B. T. on December 13, 2013, 03:29:16 am ---
--- Quote ---It won't stay at 1 screenshot. I think that they will go further and get to the point that you also need confirmation of the enemy team, to verify that it was a competitive match and not a pub match.
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It stayed at one throughout last season. I'd imagine if a team was falsifying records they would get called out pretty quickly.

Everything after that is completely irrelevant. Of course clans would have to put in the work organizing scrims, do you expect Muse to do that? Cogs and all other tournaments are not by any stretch of the imagination being replaced by this. In fact, this system is in some ways relying on them as a focal point for matches to be had. I'm not sure if you understand the point system.

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I understand the point system but in my opinion it is not a strong system. well you made a system that relies on other systems so you confirmed it's not a strong system at all.
"In fact, this system is in some ways relying on them as a focal point for matches to be had."
in my opinion were better off letting this system work together with the cogs and sunday rumbles.
falsifying information is possible because more clans are being made out of nowhere. i do not expect muse to do all the work for us, but at least we should get a scheduled time for matchess so we can put it on video.
what you forgot about 1 thing is that there has to be a referee watching the match, having only 1 refferee won't be 24/7 online.

if we use pre-scheduled matches for all teams each week then we are going to profit from 3 things:
-solid time frame.
if the times are known way before the fight then you can be 100% sure the other team is there too.
-refferees.
at scheduled events there are always refferees available.
-promoting the game with social media such as twitch.
scheduled events such as cogs or sunday rumbles are always streamed and placed on youtube. with the stream you can get more people interested in the game, which will mean that they will buy the game and play it themselves.

just to keep it short.
the point system isnt a bad idea, but maybe we can change it a bit so we have 3 scheduled events in a week where every team can fight their game for a point. (Points of Icarus events?)
an example:
you fight 1 game at each event that would be a best out of 3 match, the winner gets 1 point. just as simple as that.

using this method you get 100% valid information of matches, 100% more game promoting and 50% better matches (because some teams keep the boring playstyles and some don't).

I hope this answers your question sammy.

Byron Cavendish:
If it's part of Cogs and the Rumble, great, if the organizers are all for that kind of work. I'm just not interested in having to arrange additional scrims during the week, it's tedious, we don't have the time, and I'm just not interested. That's part of our issue with last season. The Gents had what 3 points? And in reality was probably closer to the twenties... why? Because we just didn't care enough, too much stress to worry about some overly complicated system.

I get that some people don't feel that way, but this is how I feel, not here for paperwork sorry. Sammy, you made a Saturday event that I immediately signed up for. Whatever differences the Gents and Ducks have I was immediately in, because IT WAS SIMPLE. That's why I proposed a ladder system for in-game. Don't give me that too much coding jargon, they just added an intricate rating system for matches, you're telling me you can't make a simple ladder?

I think the issue is lately Muse is trying to make things grand. We ask for a simple fjords and dunes spawn fix, we get this overly-complicated epic spawn re-work. We want a simple competitive system, they write a document that could rival a bill of Congress. Were not looking for some Sistine Chapel of ladders here, but a simple one should be able to integrate.
 

Byron Cavendish:

--- Quote from: Sammy B. T. on December 11, 2013, 03:22:15 pm ---Shink, I think a late start would be next to impossible to rise to top regardless of a participation point or not.

Byrong, they would need to also put in some sort of verification system otherwise they would get flooded by "competitive matches." That would be needlessly complicated and hard to implement. You know what is easy, screenshot and email.

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Not really, create a ladder, register your team, team gets accepted and authenticated. Only that team gets access. And worst case, so what if a bunch of teams registered? One of two things would happen: there would be an epic new interest in the competitive scene, or those registered teams would quickly fall apart, never compete, and never accrue points to advance. Or just get disabled after a time-out.

Again, they can develop a working rating/matchmaking system, they can develop a bounty hunter ladder, but developing a working functional competitive ladder is out of reach? Comon... Any serious game with an e-sport has a functional ladder, and as I said it doesn't have to be an overly thought out too intricate, too grand for it's own good ladder. Simply, and functional.

I'd much rather have them use their resources on that then some silly competitive rules and silly spawn fix that isn't a fix.

Coldcurse:
I agree with Byron.

things are being made too complicated.
keeping it simple seems to be tricky for everyone.

Skrimskraw:
why dont we just invite all teams to a seasonal tournament, those who can make it signs up, those who can't dont sign up.

thats simple lol

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