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Byron Cavendish:

--- Quote from: Shinkurex on December 12, 2013, 11:55:01 am ---
--- Quote from: Captain Coldcurse on December 12, 2013, 02:28:53 am ---Your lack of confidence amuses me Shink.
If the system fails then we have learned not to use it anymore.

Most of the time you just need to try things out.

--- End quote ---

It's not really a lack of confidence... It's more of a lack of enthusiasm... I'm not particularly excited for the upcoming season, as everything is relying on this league system that feels tacked on rather than integrated into the new competitive scene... I shouldn't be bored when I think of the competitive scene :\

--- End quote ---

This was one of my first feelings as well...bored, it feels like work.

Sammy B. T.:
A screenshot and an email is too much work?

Coldcurse:
yes.
It won't stay at 1 screenshot. I think that they will go further and get to the point that you also need confirmation of the enemy team, to verify that it was a competitive match and not a pub match. meaning you need to do alot more. also you need to plan a time to fight other people which also takes time to do to manage a suiteable time for your team and the enemy team, especially when you're a international clan. you need to keep track that you are not fighting the same guys twice and have to wait when other clans have time. I'll bet everyone wants to fight the museosaurs and ducks first because everyone knows them. This means that popularity plays a role in my opinion plays a big role in this system. I do not like the idea that you need to make a promise with another clan that might end wrong and you gain no points at all because they couldnt make it before the end of the week. In fact, why would you change a system that already worked. meaning that the cogs system isn't a bad idea to use for this kind of thing. you just need to expand the cogs a bit so instead of 1 ladder, you will have 2 that go towards a center cog (just ask me about it and ill explain it in detail for you). using a point system isnt really making things better because there is no fun in it. most of the clans want to win and promote the game so more people will play it. streaming matches is a good way to promote the game, but now we have to make appointments for those matches and they will not be on a regular timebase. This means that you won't get alot of viewers because nobody is going to stay on a stream 24/7 just to watch 1 match each day. having these matches on a scheduled time is a better way to do it. you might complain about timezones then but hey ever heard of regions? you just make an EU cogs and a USA cogs, problem solved. eventually all the teams will fight eachotehr at the end season final. because these matches all will be on a scheduled time, you will have more viewers and thus you can efficiently promote the game. I'm not saying the pointsystem is rubbish, I just notify you that in my opinion it's not the best idea ever.

we play games to have fun and laugh. we want to get the interest of new people and let them get curious and amazed by this game. showing them the crazy things we do is a great way to reach the minds of others.
we're not here for political paperwork, not all of us check the cloud behavior on every map sammy.

Captain Smollett:
Theoretically a team that played in Cogs and a tournament each week (if the tournament supported it) would fulfill their quota for points.  It's three wins a week however you manage it so theoretically a team could get all their points from organized events.

I used to love scrimmaging though: honestly playing against really good teams and clans was the only way I could truly feel prepared for cogs or other major events and it allowed me to use builds or ideas that I wouldn't want to try on the fly in cogs.

I'm not sure if the Sunday rumble is supporting the system, but if it did any team that played in cogs and the rumble might already have enough points for the weekly limit and a team that did one practice scrim, cogs and the rumble every week assuming they were relatively successful would likely reach their point quotas on a regular basis.

Sammy B. T.:

--- Quote ---It won't stay at 1 screenshot. I think that they will go further and get to the point that you also need confirmation of the enemy team, to verify that it was a competitive match and not a pub match.
--- End quote ---

It stayed at one throughout last season. I'd imagine if a team was falsifying records they would get called out pretty quickly.

Everything after that is completely irrelevant. Of course clans would have to put in the work organizing scrims, do you expect Muse to do that? Cogs and all other tournaments are not by any stretch of the imagination being replaced by this. In fact, this system is in some ways relying on them as a focal point for matches to be had. I'm not sure if you understand the point system.

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