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Sammy B. T.:
--- Quote from: Captain Coldcurse on December 13, 2013, 05:19:37 am ---
I understand the point system but in my opinion it is not a strong system. well you made a system that relies on other systems so you confirmed it's not a strong system at all.
"In fact, this system is in some ways relying on them as a focal point for matches to be had."
in my opinion were better off letting this system work together with the cogs and sunday rumbles.
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That is exactly what it does, works with other events. Imagine this scenario. The Didgeridoo schedules one scrimmage in the week and wins that, one point. Then they play a Saturday Cogs match which they win, bringing them to two points. Then they participate in a SR and win their first match but get knocked out in their second giving them their third point.
All the point system is doing is recognizing competitive wins across a wide spectrum of events ranging from traditional organized events as well as organized scrimmages.
--- Quote ---falsifying information is possible because more clans are being made out of nowhere.
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I can't imagine a clan not getting held responsible by other clans. I would suggest making the screenshots public or at least accessible.
--- Quote --- i do not expect muse to do all the work for us, but at least we should get a scheduled time for matchess so we can put it on video.
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Saturday and Sunday events will still completely exist.
--- Quote ---what you forgot about 1 thing is that there has to be a referee watching the match, having only 1 refferee won't be 24/7 online.
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Keyvias said on page three of this thread "Skirmishes don't need refs."
--- Quote ---if we use pre-scheduled matches for all teams each week then we are going to profit from 3 things:
-solid time frame.
if the times are known way before the fight then you can be 100% sure the other team is there too.
-refferees.
at scheduled events there are always refferees available.
-promoting the game with social media such as twitch.
scheduled events such as cogs or sunday rumbles are always streamed and placed on youtube. with the stream you can get more people interested in the game, which will mean that they will buy the game and play it themselves.
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All of these will continue to happen as long as people continue to schedule weekend events.
--- Quote ---just to keep it short.
the point system isnt a bad idea, but maybe we can change it a bit so we have 3 scheduled events in a week where every team can fight their game for a point. (Points of Icarus events?)
an example:
you fight 1 game at each event that would be a best out of 3 match, the winner gets 1 point. just as simple as that.
using this method you get 100% valid information of matches, 100% more game promoting and 50% better matches (because some teams keep the boring playstyles and some don't).
I hope this answers your question sammy.
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All of that is great and is in no ways contrary to what has been proposed.
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Byron, if you have a PrtScn button and gmail it should be less than thirty seconds to do "paperwork." Just hit the PrtScn button at the end of match. Compose an email, hit Ctrl+V and title the email. How on Earth is that too much? Now I would be all for matches that are recorded as part of the events to be able to be added to the scoreboard automatically with just the TO saying "hey muse, here's the points and stream." However, not all matches are streamed and happen Saturday and Sunday afternoon.
My Saturday event was designed to be an event to compliment this "complicated system" as it was just gathering some groups together for scrims that would have counted for points if the system had been in place. This point system doesn't stop any of these events, it simply rewards their wins and rewards games outside of these events.
Also I think it is worth mention, the top ten teams get into the invitational and then two teams are voted in. Its hardly restrictive.
Captain Smollett:
You can have a regularly scheduled scrim that both teams agree to show up to every week. Cake and the Paddling used to meet once a week for a friendly scrimmage that was always loads of fun. It was a great chance to give opportunities for our newer competitive players to get experience as well as try out new builds.
I think it would be awesome if refs or tournament organizers submitted screenshots, that probably would make a lot of people happier.
Also Byron never forget the power of delegation. Perhaps there's a crew member who's itching for the chance to prove their awesomeness and reliability by being the official screenshot taker and submitter.
DMaximus:
My mind is completely boggled by some of the comments here. This system is about as simple as it gets.
Step 1. Play matches throughout the week with other competitive teams. (<- please note, this is what the entire system is trying to encourage. more competitive play)
Step 2. Take a screen shot of the results of the match (Pro tip: Steam's screenshot button is F12)
Step 3. Using the power of the interwebs, e-fax it to Muse.
Step 4. Profit
As an experiment, I started a timer, took a screenshot and emailed it to myself. It took slightly under 17 seconds. If that's too difficult for someone to manage then I'm not sure how you handle walking all the way to the bathroom before making your morning ablutions.
The player ranking stuff Muse implemented is fairly straightforward code wise, they already kept track of most of that for achievements. Any clan tracking would have to first include in-game clan creation and then some crazy form of tracking which honestly isn't worth anyone's time since the competitive scene is such a small portion of the player base.
Dutch Vanya:
Coming from someone who doesn't play competitively i agree the tournament systems are being made too complicated. I read basically everything on the forums and i have no idea how they work, and everywhere i see people disagreeing about how they should work. So it is probably best to aim for classically simple tournaments.
Captain Smollett:
I don't think it's overly complicated, I think it's just being made to sound like that and the 18 page rule sheet likely isn't helping much.
Maybe Muse should put out a shortened version with the main points and link to the long form document for those that are curious about the nitty gritty.
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