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Countering the pyramidion gatling/mortar setup
N-Sunderland:
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on August 22, 2013, 11:33:30 pm ---Pyra's are really easy to counter with just about any ship.
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This. I was thinking about how ships perform in 1v1s (which do occur in 2v2 battles all the time) against each other, and the Pyra doesn't have very many good matchups to be honest. Assuming equal skill and a good understanding of each ship by the crews, the Pyra will usually get beaten by the Junker, the Galleon, the Squid (seriously), and even some Goldfishes. But then there's the Spire. Yeah. Forget about that one.
Letus:
--- Quote from: N-Sunderland on August 22, 2013, 11:55:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on August 22, 2013, 11:33:30 pm ---Pyra's are really easy to counter with just about any ship.
--- End quote ---
This. I was thinking about how ships perform in 1v1s (which do occur in 2v2 battles all the time) against each other, and the Pyra doesn't have very many good matchups to be honest. Assuming equal skill and a good understanding of each ship by the crews, the Pyra will usually get beaten by the Junker, the Galleon, the Squid (seriously), and even some Goldfishes. But then there's the Spire. Yeah. Forget about that one.
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Taken out many Ram-Happy Pyramidions with a Lumber spire...
A. Lumber. Spire.
Really funny when they go for the ram, lose balloon, and harmlessly pass below you......
and then they're pretty much dead after that....
Keon:
--- Quote from: N-Sunderland on August 22, 2013, 11:55:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on August 22, 2013, 11:33:30 pm ---Pyra's are really easy to counter with just about any ship.
--- End quote ---
This. I was thinking about how ships perform in 1v1s (which do occur in 2v2 battles all the time) against each other, and the Pyra doesn't have very many good matchups to be honest. Assuming equal skill and a good understanding of each ship by the crews, the Pyra will usually get beaten by the Junker, the Galleon, the Squid (seriously), and even some Goldfishes. But then there's the Spire. Yeah. Forget about that one.
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I don't know, my merc-heavy flak spire was working pretty well a while ago. Not pyra well, but decent.
Letus:
--- Quote from: Keon on August 23, 2013, 01:57:04 am ---
--- Quote from: N-Sunderland on August 22, 2013, 11:55:59 pm ---
--- Quote from: Byron Cavendish on August 22, 2013, 11:33:30 pm ---Pyra's are really easy to counter with just about any ship.
--- End quote ---
This. I was thinking about how ships perform in 1v1s (which do occur in 2v2 battles all the time) against each other, and the Pyra doesn't have very many good matchups to be honest. Assuming equal skill and a good understanding of each ship by the crews, the Pyra will usually get beaten by the Junker, the Galleon, the Squid (seriously), and even some Goldfishes. But then there's the Spire. Yeah. Forget about that one.
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I don't know, my merc-heavy flak spire was working pretty well a while ago. Not pyra well, but decent.
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Saying that once hull is down, a two full heavy flak clip can obliterate pyramidions...
well a two full clips except for Lesmok.
Zenark:
Flak/merc Spire is awesome against a ramming Pyramidion. If you know they're coming, you've got plenty of time to take them down, and if you know how, you can kite backwards and drop mines. They either have to turn to avoid the mines which severely decreases their speed, slow to a stop, hit a mine which will knock them out of trajectory, or rise and elevate, but a good miner can make a pretty effective wall. I had my doubts at first, but it works incredibly well.
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