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Offline JaceBoojah

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I want the facts! everything stats
« on: May 14, 2013, 02:58:38 pm »
NUMBERS!
the stats on http://gunsoficarus.com/gameplay/weapons/ are several patches old.
Examples: banshee and Artemis AoE, Artemis, flare, and light carronade reload time

Besides things I can check myself like firing speed, turning radios, and reload time, I am completely at the mercy of whatever numbers you provide.

Also where are the ship stat numbers (including sandbox dummys)?

I am trying to make comprehensive and easy to to understand guides but all of my work so far is inaccurate.
This is my unorganized notes page:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AsnSHYuKeyKDdHVsODhWUzA3NEF6YU5GR0xmOHNhYUE&usp=sharing

Please give me all the numbers you have.


Offline NikolaiLev

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 03:46:22 pm »
Gotta say, this is something I've been meaning to post about for a while.

However, tragically, awkm's philosophy towards balance seems to oppose the divulging of hard numbers, as he believes doing so would shape the meta and thus "ruin the experience."  But given data miners like ourselves are a rare kind (even compared to the forum population) I just don't see much credence in that.  I know I have never seen a game's metagame be ruined by knowledge being spread.

Hopefully he'll reconsider that stance, and offer us a more comprehensive, complete spreadsheet of data that tells us all the relevant values, including rate of fire (which is one of the values we don't have at all).

Offline Mattilald Anguisad

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 06:24:06 pm »
Stats from old spip setup pages (what i remember)
Goldfish: 400 Armor 1100 Hull
Pyramidion: 800 Armor 600 Hull
Squid: 220 Armor 650 Hull
Junker: 500 Armor (?) 750 Hull (?)
Galleon 1100 (?) Armor 1400 hull
Spire:? ?

All have 1200 Baloon (Pyramidion has it's baloon partialy protected by metal bits, that count as armor/hull - at least from what people say).

Offline JaceBoojah

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 09:45:29 pm »
My 2 goals are to help new players learn the game and provide vets data to make build other than the normal ones.
 

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 09:51:29 pm »
Pyra I believe was 650 armor 800 hull.

Squid also has 800 hull.

Junker 700 armor 500 hull.

Galleon 800 armor 1200 hull.

Spire 500 armor 600 (maybe 650) hull

Goldie is correct.

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 03:21:29 am »
Light engines have   : 280HP
Heavy engines have:  400HP

in terms of guns:
Lights Usually have 200HP
Heavy guns have:   360HP

I gathered this data by wacking that damaged part with a spanner in game, and measured how many bars the hp increased by. this allowed me to calculate by counting the bars on each part

Each spanner hit repairs about 1 bar
« Last Edit: May 15, 2013, 03:28:02 am by Sakaron »

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 03:23:37 am »
Light engines have   : 280HP
Heavy engines have:  400HP

in terms of guns:
Lights Usually have 200HP
Heavy guns have:   360HP

I gathered this data by wacking that damaged part with a spanner in game, and measured how many bars the hp increased by. this allowed my to calculate by counting the bars on each part

Each spanner hit repairs about 1 bar
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Offline Mattilald Anguisad

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 04:40:56 am »
Pyra I believe was 650 armor 800 hull.

Galleon 800 armor 1200 hull.


I'm pretty sure Pyra has more Armor than hull and that Galleon has more Hull Health than Baloon Health.

I think they have change some of the other stats of the ships (like turning speed and radial acceleratin as well as well known foward acceleration changes as well as posibly the mass) but old top speeds and masses are:

Squid: 46m/s 50 000kg
Goldfish: 32 m/s 150 000kg
Spire: ? (>26.5m/s) 160 000kg
Junker: 26.5m/s 200 000kg
Pyramidion: 30.5 m/s 300 000kg
Galleon: 28m/s 400 000kg

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Re: I want the facts! everything stats
« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2013, 09:02:17 pm »
...As it turns out Glleons listed hull health is 1400
http://gunsoficarus.com/gameplay/ships-3/

And since ships Armor and Hull health haven't change in a long while, we can probably assume it's reasonabla accurate, especialy since the page was updated reasonably short time ago.