Author Topic: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!  (Read 275054 times)

Offline Calico Jack

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #255 on: August 13, 2013, 01:21:10 pm »
N Sunderland - I agree *extends hand*

Offline Lord Fontelroy

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #256 on: August 21, 2013, 12:23:00 pm »
They need to make the gunner better, so there's a reason to be one. Like overall quicker reload times, better zooming, or something of that nature.

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #257 on: August 21, 2013, 01:14:32 pm »
There already is a reason to be one. If you're using one ammo type on a heavy gun (and even some light guns, like the mortar), you're really limiting their effectiveness.

Offline N-Sunderland

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #258 on: August 21, 2013, 01:39:08 pm »
I agree about heavy guns, but that only applies to three ships (though I do find that the three four engi build is better for the Spire, but let's please not get into that). And I know the mortar's often brought up as an example of a light gun that needs multiple ammo types, but buffed vanilla (never forget the power of vanilla rounds) gives close enough DPS to greased to the point where there isn't really a difference, and it comes without the lowered projectile speed. Plus you can use the buff with lesmok at longer ranges.

Offline RearAdmiralZill

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #259 on: August 21, 2013, 01:40:12 pm »
Can we please stop this thread....We all know what's going to happen, again...

Offline Zenark

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #260 on: August 21, 2013, 01:43:00 pm »
I think gunners will have a bigger place in the game as more guns and ammo types become available, requiring more focus on diversity rather than simplicity.

I'd also better trust a level 8 gunner to a level 13 engineer as my main gunner.

Offline N-Sunderland

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #261 on: August 21, 2013, 01:49:14 pm »
Can we please stop this thread....We all know what's going to happen, again...

I know... I'm sorry... I just don't like the misconception that the mortar needs multiple ammo types any more than other light guns...

Ok, I'm done now. I won't post in this thread anymore. Finished.


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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #262 on: August 21, 2013, 02:33:37 pm »
Can we please stop this thread....We all know what's going to happen, again...

I know... I'm sorry... I just don't like the misconception that the mortar needs multiple ammo types any more than other light guns...

Ok, I'm done now. I won't post in this thread anymore. Finished.
Kinda like the misconception that gunners aren't necessary, eh?

;)

Offline Moriarty

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #263 on: August 22, 2013, 03:30:30 am »
bet the thread keeps going until adventure mode.

Offline Echoez

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #264 on: August 22, 2013, 09:15:00 am »
bet the thread keeps going until adventure mode.

Unfortunately, as long as the only gun that absolutely requires a gunner is the Lumberjack, nothing will change and gunners will remain underused. Which is a sad fact and I think is the source of many of the imbalances in this game that having 3 engineers creates.

Offline RearAdmiralZill

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #265 on: August 22, 2013, 09:23:29 am »
bet the thread keeps going until adventure mode.

Only you can let me lock this and sticky it for reference. This horse has been to the glue factory about twenty times.

Offline Moriarty

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #266 on: August 22, 2013, 09:25:52 am »
bet the thread keeps going until adventure mode.

Only you can let me lock this and sticky it for reference. This horse has been to the glue factory about twenty times.

My dear Zill, surely we can all agree this is an "evolving discussion".

Offline RearAdmiralZill

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #267 on: August 22, 2013, 09:27:49 am »
I'll let Sunderland answer that.

Offline Pickle

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #268 on: August 22, 2013, 09:29:49 am »
Three engie builds really aren't that common in the game, they're extremely rare.  So the problem isn't really that great.  The thread can be closed as low priority.

(ignoring the irrelevance that is "competitive play")

Offline Echoez

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Re: Fellow Ex-Gunners Of Icarus Lend Me Your Ears!
« Reply #269 on: August 26, 2013, 11:39:34 am »
Three engie builds really aren't that common in the game, they're extremely rare.  So the problem isn't really that great.  The thread can be closed as low priority.

(ignoring the irrelevance that is "competitive play")

Quite the opposite I might say, I see way too many 3Engi builds outside of competitive, people that learn how to abuse the current engineer class will simply do so and they don't have to be competitive players, so I would hardly call it an irrelevance or a low priority.