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Offline Wundsalz

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Remove the clan chat window!
« on: May 02, 2014, 07:03:26 am »
Can you please remove the clan chat window and just post the clan-msgs into the match window (similar to party-chat-msgs)?
Currently I don't use the clan chat because people don't see new clan msgs popping up in a different window. Also I do focus on the match chat and will miss msgs in the clan-window most of the time.

Offline AbbyTheRat

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2014, 01:20:10 pm »
I don't agree with clan messages going to match window but the chat system could do with a little rework. Like, it should be customizable. I made a brief suggestion to muse about it but I think if I can flesh it out and explain it better, they might see the system better!

Basically, you can define what message is displayed in the tab. Create a tab/delete and stuff.

So you could do something like
Global, Match, Clan, PM for tabs

Then select what information you want to displayed in the tab.

So You could do something like..

Global Chat
Clan Chat
Match Chat
Team Chat
Crew Chat
PM Chat
Party Chat
Friends Login/Logout
Clan Login/Logout
Clan Joins/Quits (the different is people leaving and joining the clan)
Match Damage - (It be nice to actually see this in chat instead of top right, knowing when a balloon goes it useful to me)
Signals
System Notification (Server wide message and the like, should be on across all tabs as fixed anyway but still useful to display that)

(Just in case someone's browser can't handle unicode
☑ - tick box
☐ - unticked box.)
An example customisation for me would be:
AllGlobalClanMatchPM
Global Chat
Clan Chat
Match Chat
Team Chat
Crew Chat
PM Chat
Party Chat
Friends Login/Logout
Clan Login/Logout
Clan Joins/Quits
Match Damage
Signals
System Notification

While someone else might not want a PM tab but they might want a Signals + Crew + team chat only. So it would look like this for them
AllGlobalClanMatchNo Distraction
Global Chat
Clan Chat
Match Chat
Team Chat
Crew Chat
PM Chat
Party Chat
Friends Login/Logout
Clan Login/Logout
Clan Joins/Quits
Match Damage
Signals
System Notification

 And this should also affect the in game chat as well. Only they should be able to cycle thou the tabs using key binding (tab while chat is active?) and based on the options selected for the tab, the key to activate the chat should show up for that.. for example, if I were to use Clan chat, then the options to send a chat to crew/team/match/party is allowed.

Finally, A tabshould get highlighted when it receive new updates, highlighted colours changed according to the type of information received. For a example, chat like messages - Red, Quit/Joins/login/logout - Pale Yellow, System Messages - Green. Or whatever colours best match the GoIO theme :)

Offline Crafeksterty

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2014, 03:44:27 pm »
Seems very complicated, but i dont know why it cant be there. Is it taking away something?

For clans that are very big, this is usefull. But i would like to have a notification on the clan chat notifying there has been said something. Like a feint glow or something like the red dot if someone new joins the clan, just a red dot on the clan button chat. Click it, and then it dissapiers assuming you are up to date on that.

Offline Imagine

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2014, 03:53:15 pm »
Afaik the problem with doing something like that, Abby, is the steam chat system is incredibly simple and cannot be set up in such a way.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2014, 04:26:25 pm »
Afaik the problem with doing something like that, Abby, is the steam chat system is incredibly simple and cannot be set up in such a way.

We're not talking about steam's chat.

Seems very complicated, but i dont know why it cant be there. Is it taking away something?

With a sane default, most people may never bother with changing the settings. For some people, like me, would. I've often do that to a lot of MMO that has custom chat settings like I listed above. Another thing is it makes it very flexible for adding new chats in the future.. say.. in the future GoIO has gotten really popular (I HOPE!) and decide to add a region chat and divide people up a bit more.. which in turn they could add a region vs region scoring and stuff.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2014, 09:17:18 pm »
Afaik the problem with doing something like that, Abby, is the steam chat system is incredibly simple and cannot be set up in such a way.

We're not talking about steam's chat.

Actually, we are. Goio uses Steam's chat service, last I checked.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2014, 10:43:50 pm »
*GoIO uses steam's Voice chat service.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2014, 10:53:56 pm »
*GoIO uses steam's Voice chat service.
As well as regular text chat.

Offline Wundsalz

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2014, 04:47:22 am »
Be that as it may, the visual presentation of the chat channels is something muse can influence. As a hobby programmer, I personally doubt something along the line with Abbys suggestion would be hard to implement.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2014, 11:08:45 am »
At the very least make the clan tab glow or something when someone sends a clan message. Right now we don't use it, because you either see only clan chat or only match chat. Kind of sad.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2014, 04:48:20 am »
Just searched for this kind of thread and also wanted to point out that currently you have to cycle through the tabs to see if anything has been said - a very simple on/off toggleable tab colour change would be even sufficient.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2014, 04:54:38 am »
How about just color coding them all and use one window?

That is how it works in MMOs. Then you have / commands for talking in each.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2014, 05:00:26 am »
How about just color coding them all and use one window?

That is how it works in MMOs. Then you have / commands for talking in each.
My proposition would be (theoretically) quicker/easier to implement than a total rewrite of the chat system. But I wish for a more complex system also, in the long run.   

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2014, 10:09:37 am »
Having 1 window for all chats would be a horrible idea. The global chat at times get's a vast amount of chat masseges that you can't keep up with it and another chat at the same time. Same with match chat, if people decide to use the text chat instead of voice chat. More so if you have a big clan. Put that all in 1 window and you will start to ignore the chat, since you can't keep up with it.

Having an indicator that something has been said in clan chat would be enough. Something like this:
At the very least make the clan tab glow or something when someone sends a clan message.

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Re: Remove the clan chat window!
« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2014, 01:01:37 pm »
how about just making the clan window fucking BLINK dark and light brown or whatever colour it is once someone wrote in there?