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Offline Mattilald Anguisad

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2014, 10:11:28 am »
I do the same with double-gatling+mortar mobula. Mortar is on top so I can shoot it myself as pilot, just jump up and grab it from below.
Crafeksterty's Mobula build then :P

My experimental builds are:
duble gat, double banshee flak mobula
front gat, with left gat-flak and right caronade-mortar junker
all banshee junker
quad Helhound with mortar left and harpoon back galleon

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2014, 12:26:15 pm »
I tend to have a lot of fun with the carro-flamer or carro-gat pyramidion. For some crazier fun I go 'Sky Whalin'' with a mine launcher and harpoon on the front. This allows for some active mining, and with the pyra's mass it makes the harpoon a little easier to deal with. Then there's mine squids and a carronade fish a mine launcher on the side.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2014, 12:47:56 pm »
I used to not fly the meta and be really effective. Then the Meta changed. Its like the opposite of this



For me though, if a build is effective, I call it meta. Things generally don't just randomly work.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2014, 02:56:03 pm »
For me though, if a build is effective, I call it meta. Things generally don't just randomly work.

But that's not what meta is... Something can be the best build in the game by a long way, but if only one or two teams use it then it's not meta.

(But I agree that things don't work out of nowhere. Usually there's the meta, then a few other builds that work well, and a few more that work situationally)
« Last Edit: March 12, 2014, 02:57:55 pm by N-Sunderland »

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2014, 11:38:27 am »
Things that are purpously made to work the best and is commonly known. Bit like how people know gravity... Is meta. (But it is called Meta because it is a game you are playing. Using stuff that is definetly not your own is Meta.) In Dnd campaigns, playing by stuff your character shouldnt know is Meta. In video games, if you play by the usual and purposfully thing to work. Its meta. There are lots of builds you can call meta, but usualy the most popular ones are the most defined as Meta.

My double Hades + heavy flak spire example is actually a Meta to the builds effeciency.
What makes it non Meta is having AI. It is more effective with AI, but unusual.

Here is another build.
Pyra: Double Merc front, Gat Mort Left. (Aproach with Double Merc, brawl with Left side.)
It has Meta workings on its pair of guns. BUT its placement is unusual.

(Now, pyramidions is the ship that you can be least flexible with in terms of builds so pyras usualy have Meta working weapons)

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2014, 10:50:58 pm »
Hades Funhouse.

If you have been on it, or faced it, you know.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2014, 11:57:46 pm »
So true.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2014, 01:32:41 pm »
Was my gat/mort left/right carronade front junker always meta?

Also: Triple carronade squid. Ballons BEGONE!

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2014, 03:39:10 pm »
All carronade squid? Posh. Jeeves Hates Balloon is the only way to go for max balloon abuse. All carronade Galleon.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #24 on: April 24, 2014, 03:25:22 pm »
Brawly Lumberfishes.
They require a very opportunistic playstyle and communication with your team mate, but if they work out they're super fun to play.
Tell your gunner to bring charge/burst, greased and loch.
Use the fishes agility to relocate a lot and try to get you and your teammate into a good position for attacks or ambushes. pop the enemies balloon from mid range to lure them out or ruin their positioning. use greased rounds to get rid of their hull and the balloon in closer distances. If they're positioned close to the ground of in front of a structure finish them with rams - preferably supported by a loch-shot before impact. If you don't see an opportunity for a ram kill, play the fish as a supporter - keep one enemy down and out of battle and try to support your ally. Also note that the goldfishes mobility is very handy when it comes to getting out of hairy situations. You rarely need to fight until you die. If the situation glitches out of your hands, just fly away and relocate.
The build works quite well against junkers, other goldies and spires. Unfortunately metamideons are a quite strong counter against lumberfishes.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2014, 04:13:03 pm »
A close-range lumberfish without incendiary or even heatsink? Heresy!

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2014, 05:47:43 pm »
A close-range lumberfish without incendiary or even heatsink? Heresy!
With a goldie it's usually rather easy to set the distance to the enemy to your liking. Hence I prefer greased for dps maximization.

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2014, 07:00:11 pm »
so why bring charged or burst?

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2014, 07:28:22 pm »
so why bring charged or burst?

They operate at a range where greased has difficulty hitting (due to lowered speed) and where lesmok isn't necessary. Charged is glorious for its consistent 2-hit balloon pops, and burst maximizes your damage per clip (and effectively guarantees that a hit absolutely anywhere on the enemy's hull will count as a balloon hit)

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Re: Non-meta builds that are fun and(or) effective
« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2014, 08:41:41 pm »
One of my favorite non-meta builds is Double carronade mobula with a mine launcher on top.