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Offline Spud Nick

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Hwacha Tweek
« on: October 03, 2013, 11:05:39 am »
Reduce the reload time and increase the aoe of its shatter damage. Too much of a buff or not enough? Your thoughts below.....

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 11:30:26 am »
Too much. If anything, id say a slight bump to aoe. That said, I'm interested to see why people think this gun is less than useful as I use them to good effect on plenty of occasions.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 11:33:14 am »
Probably because sometimes the hawacha lolols itself to victory, and other times it does like... zero damage to anything (though this has a lot to do with who's firing using what ammo from what angle). Too much variation is effectiveness from one clip unload to another.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 11:44:58 am »
Too much variation is effectiveness from one clip unload to another.

This.

Unreliability is what kills it for me most of the time. Especially on a Goldfish, when even the slightest twerk can mess up an entire clip, this gun needs to be muct more reliable than it is right now.

Decrease in reload is a bit too much of a buff, but at least make those reloads count more and be more reliable, I would suggest a slight decrease in spread as well to increase the effective range of which Burst rounds can be used on this gun.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 11:57:31 am »
i cannot for the life of me fire this weapon on a galleon, the sideways movement added with forward momentum added with oppenents ship turning/moving added with jitter spread of the weapon. its too much xD the AoE is amazing with burst rounds in which i advise you guys to try. with the extra ammo and extra AoE you end up shattering almost all of the components :)

Offline Richard LeMoon

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 12:38:40 pm »
You need to communicate heavily with your captain while firing it on a Galleon. I always tell my gunners to hold fire until I give the order, then I will reverse direction and hit the kero to come to a complete stop for enough time to empty the clip with scary accuracy. Since kero is still on, I end up going full speed in the other direction.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 02:04:15 pm »
Hwacha needs infinite ammo.

No, really, just add a few shots for each clip. Maybe two or three.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 02:19:29 pm »
Burst is almost no good unless you're uncomfortably close with the target. I suggest either reduction in spread OR (not both) larger aoe.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 02:30:30 pm »
More shots wont change the current problem. The problem is either zero spread at longrange which means nearly no disable if theres no component or the same high disable if they are extreme close.
U need a more reliable disable at longer to medium range.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 02:42:29 pm »
Someone cue one of the dozens of hwacha are op threads.  Honestly the gun is fine, op for newbies and very difficult to get maximum usage out of by experienced players.  Changing heavy clip from 100% spread reduction to 95% spread reduction would probably solve the problem since a lot of players (even experienced ones) struggle making adjustments with the shot during the volley to spread out the part destructs.  The aoe is is fine if you ask me since anything within 7 meters of the shot will break which is an awful large distance if you think about it.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 02:48:37 pm »
With the exception of the carronade all Medium weapons are hard to use on a galleon when the pilot thinks their job is to orbit the battle field. I would like a decrease in the camera shake, it makes it hard to walk a manticore stream over an enemy ship. That is one of the reasons heavy clip manticores only taking out one or two weapons. After the first few rockets go out it is hard to know where the rest will go.

Of course once I start shooting point blanking with burst rounds it becomes less of an issue. I like the Manticore because it is both a high skill and low skill weapon. Low skill users can still make use of it where as high skill users can accomplish very impressive things.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 03:01:43 pm »
The aoe is is fine if you ask me since anything within 7 meters of the shot will break which is an awful large distance if you think about it.

Are we playing the same game? Since when are the Galleon's 2 heavy guns further away than 7 meters that a barrage that hits one of them doesn't disable the other one as well? Cause that never happened. So it's either not 7 meters, or I'm crazy.

The AoE is much smaller than you think, especially when there is no spread and you can't realy lead your shots properly while firing due to the shake, twitchy mouse movement is also mostly unreliable when firing a volley of rockets and risks messing up the rest of it.

Long range volleys require too much concetration and precision for a multi-warhead weapon. Old Heavy clip spread was much better. 95% will still pretty much make all shots end up in the same spot with sub-atomic space difference between shots.

I still think it's an issue with the gun and not Heavy clip, it's underwhelming for the most part and the long reload time doesn't seem to pay of. Too much risk for not as much of a reward, considering enemy guns will be up long before you can fire again.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 04:59:09 pm »
Rubbish, if anything this gun is still overpowered, ya'll just gotta learn how to shoot.

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 05:04:57 pm »
This kind of comment incites anger and flame GeoRmr. Please provide a more sensible comment than "you don't know how to shoot."

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Re: Hwacha Tweek
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 05:08:49 pm »
This kind of comment incites anger and flame GeoRmr. Please provide a more sensible comment than "you don't know how to shoot."

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