Lesmok 1.3.1

[Calico Jack]

Personally I feel the reason for the rise of the mortar is boredom - whoever gets stationed on the flak is in for long periods of waiting followed by emptying 1 clip then reloading and waiting some more while the gat gunner gnaws away at the next target.

What? No. Absolutely not. The mortar replaced the flak as the go-to finishing gun because of the changes to heavy clip in 1.3, which left the flak unable to finish the Pyramidion or Galleon quickly enough.

Perhaps for you, my reason for switching was through crew feedback.

[Rainer Zu Fall]

I still think it has to do with the lack of any spread on the mortar.

That's what I suggested too as first thought, but since it doesn't seem to be able to be applied...well, I guess we need to look at it from another point of view.

I just want to bring up that, due to the design and reload animation, the Heavy Flak would look kind of silly fireing three shots as default.

This is actually a very good point.  Can't go on and piss off the art team!  They'll hang me!

Yup, you're both right about that. Hm.
But seems to have been solved in the new test version.

[RearAdmiralZill]

Quote from: RearAdmiralZill on August 14, 2013, 04:46:00 pm

I still think it has to do with the lack of any spread on the mortar.




That's what I suggested too as first thought, but since it doesn't seem to be able to be applied...well, I guess we need to look at it from another point of view.

Really? I thought any gun could have it added or removed, as mortar had it before and was then buffed by it being removed. I'm not talking ship movement but rather just the shot not always going exactly where you aim, much like light flak does with no heavy clip.

[Rainer Zu Fall]

Yeah, decreasing the mortar's accuracy (so to say) somehow would maybe help solve the problem of it being mainly used with only lesmok right now.

[awkm]

I can add some jitter back into Mortar.

[Captain Smollett]

It could be just me but I actually liked the Mortar as a slow moving but precise skill shot.

I just seems that darn Lesmok is shooting it too fast now.

[Sammy B. T.]

I'm telling you, 50% ammo clip with lesmok.

You still get the one shot with the small clip guns.
You reduce the ammo size for lumerjack and light mortar enough to compensate for their new straightness.

[Echoez]

I'm telling you, 50% ammo clip with lesmok.

You still get the one shot with the small clip guns.
You reduce the ammo size for lumerjack and light mortar enough to compensate for their new straightness.

I think that this is a pretty fine change to balance it out since the gun is only problematic with Lesmok.

50% drops it to 8 ammo, which aren't enough to cause both armor and hull pressure at once, but is still enough to kill a Pyra within a clip if you land all rounds.

It's also a fine trade off for both the Flamer and the LJ for how easier it makes long shots now.

[RearAdmiralZill]

50% drops it to 8 ammo, which aren't enough to cause both armor and hull pressure at once, but is still enough to kill a Pyra within a clip if you land all rounds.

That's still a replacement for light flak, which is the very issue we want to fix.

[N-Sunderland]

50% drops it to 8 ammo, which aren't enough to cause both armor and hull pressure at once, but is still enough to kill a Pyra within a clip if you land all rounds.

That's still a replacement for light flak, which is the very issue we want to fix.

I think that the light flak itself should be looked at, since there's clearly an issue there.

[awkm]

IM LOOKING OKAY?

jeez.

[Captain Smollett]

Well, Queso a long time ago spoke about reducing jitter on the light flak.  Before this made the thought of burst ammo light flak seem super op to me; but with the way the light mortar is these days, maybe that would make it balanced.

[Captain Smollett]

Also 50% ammo to lesmok seems extreme, just like 80% increase in speed seems extreme. 

I think we just need to slow down the lesmok boost a bit.  I mean we all like the longer range flame thrower, but maybe we just need to increase the range on the flamer.

[James T. Kirk]

Also 50% ammo to lesmok seems extreme, just like 80% increase in speed seems extreme. 

I think we just need to slow down the lesmok boost a bit.  I mean we all like the longer range flame thrower, but maybe we just need to increase the range on the flamer.

Must...... Resist..... saying...... What everyone expects me to say.....



Has anyone tried lesmock on the light flak?

Because with the insane range boost, it might out-distance the Heavy Gatling. It might even make a nice counterpart to the Merc at mid-range...

Never tested this, just asking anyone else if they have.

[N-Sunderland]

Also 50% ammo to lesmok seems extreme, just like 80% increase in speed seems extreme. 

I think we just need to slow down the lesmok boost a bit.  I mean we all like the longer range flame thrower, but maybe we just need to increase the range on the flamer.

Must...... Resist..... saying...... What everyone expects me to say.....



Has anyone tried lesmock on the light flak?

Because with the insane range boost, it might out-distance the Heavy Gatling. It might even make a nice counterpart to the Merc at mid-range...

Never tested this, just asking anyone else if they have.

The jitter is way, way too high for that to work.

And the light flak has higher base range than the gat anyways.