Guns Of Icarus Online
Off-Topic => The Lounge => Topic started by: Hunter. on May 20, 2014, 04:18:01 pm
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Any weeaboos here in GoIO? Here's some stuff about me, feel free to copy paste this as a template or add more questions!
First anime: Dragonball Z (aired on tv for me when I had never heard of anime as a kid!)
Favourite anime of all time: Oban Star Racers
Favourite anime this season: Brynhildr in the Darkness/Black Bullet/No Game No Life.. Please don't make me choose, was hard enough narrowing it down to this!
Favourite anime last season: Log Horizon, hands down (2nd place would be a tough call though!)
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): Recently, my sister is unusual
Most hated antagonist: The as of yet unnamed guy (I believe) from Gokukoku No Brynhildr (Brynhildr in the Darkness) I really want to know his name so I can put him in the Death Note book...
Most loved protagonist: Shiro (Log Horizon) is the Sherlock of anime.. always 50 steps ahead, but not ridiculously intelligent/ahead of everyone as Shiro/Sora from No Game No Life!
Favourite relationship: KiritoXAsuna :O SO KAWAII!
Waifu: Chocolat from NOUCOMe
Over-rated anime: Naruto
Under-rated anime: Bodacious Space Pirates needs way more love!
Personal anime fact: I have watched every episode of Dragonball, Dragonball Z, Dragonball GT and the abridged series.. still have to watch the movies for completeness but I don't want to kill myself from how bad they are..
Interested to see the opinions of others! Took me a while to think all of those through and decide!
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-Love Hina
-Gun Sword / Sword Art Online
-Issukan Friends / Tonari no Seki-kun
-Log Horizon
-So-ra-no-wo-to
-Heathcliff, SAO
-Van, Gun Sword
-Kirito x Sachi, CAUSE SHE LIVES DAMMIT!!
-Taneshima Poplar, Working!!
-Evangelion
-Gun Sword
-I've logged more hours watching anime since 07 than most people have their entire lives. To the point now I can tell a good show from a bad show by the first episode or two. Also how the show will likely end and who the lead romantic interest will be. Genres I didn't originally like, I now find interest in. But what many people see as the pillars of anime and as the greatest shows of all time, I cannot stand. EVA and Code Geass. Shows which butcher character development or run around in circles of psychosis and never get anywhere. Then my recent most hated genre being all female cast animes. Space Pirates, Symphogear...etc. For the last couple of years Japan has been doing a summer of anime with only female actors. The shows end up being horrifically predictable and rampant kawaii fests to rake in money. These ruined the Last Exile sequel and turned shows from good potential into moronic story like Space Pirates.
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First anime: Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, but didn't get into anime until FLCL
Favourite anime of all time: Steins;Gate
Favourite anime this season: Haven't been able to watch any this season yet, but I have No Game No Life and Mekakucity Actors on my list to watch
Favourite anime last season: Noragami
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): The Hentai Price and the Stony Cat
Most hated character (changed this one up): Everyone from Oriemo, but especially Kirino.
Most loved protagonist: Probably too many to choose from, but for right now Rintaro Okabe because deluded self-proclaimed mad scientist is too good to pass up.
Favourite relationship: Koyomi Araragi and Hitagi Senjougahara (Monogatari series)
Waifu: I don't... I don't do that creepy waifu stuff.
Over-rated anime: Death Note, because the 2nd half sucked, and the ending just heaped the shit on.
Under-rated anime: There's about a million that I could list here... I dunno, Noein probably?
Personal anime fact: I've been to several anime conventions and once dabbled in making AMVs. My anime watching has slowed a lot in the past few years due to taking up streaming on a more regular basis, but for several years there I watched a plethora them. Even did some reviews for a couple of different anime websites.
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-Love Hina
-Gun Sword / Sword Art Online
-Issukan Friends / Tonari no Seki-kun
-Log Horizon
-So-ra-no-wo-to
-Heathcliff, SAO
-Van, Gun Sword
-Kirito x Sachi, CAUSE SHE LIVES DAMMIT!!
-Taneshima Poplar, Working!!
-Evangelion
-Gun Sword
-I've logged more hours watching anime since 07 than most people have their entire lives. To the point now I can tell a good show from a bad show by the first episode or two. Also how the show will likely end and who the lead romantic interest will be. Genres I didn't originally like, I now find interest in. But what many people see as the pillars of anime and as the greatest shows of all time, I cannot stand. EVA and Code Geass. Shows which butcher character development or run around in circles of psychosis and never get anywhere. Then my recent most hated genre being all female cast animes. Space Pirates, Symphogear...etc. For the last couple of years Japan has been doing a summer of anime with only female actors. The shows end up being horrifically predictable and rampant kawaii fests to rake in money. These ruined the Last Exile sequel and turned shows from good potential into moronic story like Space Pirates.
Sword art was a damn good anime.. and I'm pumped for Phantom Bullet after reading the novel! I look forward to Seki-kun every week, I didn't really like Heathcliff.. I would of liked him more had they have hinted at him being the bad guy as opposed to "SUDDENLY HE IS THE CREATOR!". WHY MUST YOU REMIND ME OF SACHI! I've been looking to watch Evangelion, is it not good at all or just worse than everyone says? Also I cannot resist the kawaii :(
First anime: Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, but didn't get into anime until FLCL
Favourite anime of all time: Steins;Gate
Favourite anime this season: Haven't been able to watch any this season yet, but I have No Game No Life and Mekakucity Actors on my list to watch
Favourite anime last season: Noragami
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): The Hentai Price and the Stony Cat
Most hated character (changed this one up): Everyone from Oriemo, but especially Kirino.
Most loved protagonist: Probably too many to choose from, but for right now Rintaro Okabe because deluded self-proclaimed mad scientist is too good to pass up.
Favourite relationship: Koyomi Araragi and Hitagi Senjougahara (Monogatari series)
Waifu: I don't... I don't do that creepy waifu stuff.
Over-rated anime: Death Note, because the 2nd half sucked, and the ending just heaped the shit on.
Under-rated anime: There's about a million that I could list here... I dunno, Noein probably?
Personal anime fact: I've been to several anime conventions and once dabbled in making AMVs. My anime watching has slowed a lot in the past few years due to taking up streaming on a more regular basis, but for several years there I watched a plethora them. Even did some reviews for a couple of different anime websites.
Everything this season is good and very unique/original.. so far everything I've seen except Dragon Collection and HEROBANK are must watch series', Dragon Collection is okay but HEROBANK is shockingly bad. I WONDER what is included in The Hentai Price and the Stony Cat. Koyomi sounds like a really cool character from your description, might give it a watch! WAIFUS ARE NOT CREEPY! ^^ And that's pretty cool, any favourite AMV's?
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Everything this season is good and very unique/original.. so far everything I've seen except Dragon Collection and HEROBANK are must watch series', Dragon Collection is okay but HEROBANK is shockingly bad. I WONDER what is included in The Hentai Price and the Stony Cat. Koyomi sounds like a really cool character from your description, might give it a watch! WAIFUS ARE NOT CREEPY! ^^ And that's pretty cool, any favourite AMV's?
I ended up liking Hentai Prince/Stony Cat because on the surface it was a fluff anime, especially for the first half or so, pretty stereotypical characters and just a thread of a story to go by, and then suddenly the story took this incredibly poignant turn that I did not see coming... kinda like the first season of Chuunibyou in that respect.
Errr... I didn't really give Koyomi Araragi a description (but you should watch Bakemonogatari and the rest of that series anyways). I did give Okabe a description, that's from Steins;Gate, which I automatically recommend to everyone.
I personally find the concept of waifus creepy because most anime girls are quite underaged... I suppose it's one thing if you're still young but at my age? Yeah, not so much.
As for AMVs, pretty much anything by Nostromoro... in specific https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMiuN8ULd_c or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhMmgt9xh6U
And just for silliness, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZMh_nBSn-0
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Everything this season is good and very unique/original.. so far everything I've seen except Dragon Collection and HEROBANK are must watch series', Dragon Collection is okay but HEROBANK is shockingly bad. I WONDER what is included in The Hentai Price and the Stony Cat. Koyomi sounds like a really cool character from your description, might give it a watch! WAIFUS ARE NOT CREEPY! ^^ And that's pretty cool, any favourite AMV's?
I ended up liking Hentai Prince/Stony Cat because on the surface it was a fluff anime, especially for the first half or so, pretty stereotypical characters and just a thread of a story to go by, and then suddenly the story took this incredibly poignant turn that I did not see coming... kinda like the first season of Chuunibyou in that respect.
Errr... I didn't really give Koyomi Araragi a description (but you should watch Bakemonogatari and the rest of that series anyways). I did give Okabe a description, that's from Steins;Gate, which I automatically recommend to everyone.
I personally find the concept of waifus creepy because most anime girls are quite underaged... I suppose it's one thing if you're still young but at my age? Yeah, not so much.
As for AMVs, pretty much anything by Nostromoro... in specific https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMiuN8ULd_c or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhMmgt9xh6U
And just for silliness, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZMh_nBSn-0
I meant Okabe, my bad, I read the wrong line I guess!
I never really looked at waifus like that.. and if they are under-age and you're aged 25 or something I can see that being creepy!
Also.. I now have some new songs for my playlist! =D
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Sword art was a damn good anime.. and I'm pumped for Phantom Bullet after reading the novel! I look forward to Seki-kun every week, I didn't really like Heathcliff.. I would of liked him more had they have hinted at him being the bad guy as opposed to "SUDDENLY HE IS THE CREATOR!". WHY MUST YOU REMIND ME OF SACHI! I've been looking to watch Evangelion, is it not good at all or just worse than everyone says? Also I cannot resist the kawaii :(
Surette recently asked me my opinion of Evangelion (he's watching Eureka Seven now), so I'll copy that over:
I'd say you should definitely watch it eventually, but it's not something to kick to the top of the list. It's one of those classic anime that influenced so much that came after. Especially in the dub Shinji manages to be even whinier than Renton. His voice is slightly less annoying in japanese,but he's still a huge bitch. It's a much darker feel overall than E7. A lot of the imagery is really cool and the battles are pretty uniquely done and visually interesting. The characters are so unbelievably fucked up it's interesting, and there's always some mysterious background stuff going on that keeps you wanting to know more about the world and piece it all together. The ending(s) is/are really weird and kind of unfulfilling, so I just kind of ignore them.
Both Eva and E7 are heavily character focused, but Eva takes more of a "ways we damn ourselves and how we deal with our psychological baggage" while E7 is more of a hopeful redemptionist theme. You can even see this in the shows' palates. E7 is all bright colors and pink explosions while eva is dark purples, blood reds and black. They have completely different feels.
Eva can get painfully awkward at times because Shinji is such a bitch and the creators felt the need to put random fan service in for no good reason, but you get through those bits to get to the good parts.
He just recently got into anime by watching SAO with me, and I've been taking him on an overview of anime since then. Unlike most, I prefer dubs, so some of the above may not be applicable.
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Ok heres the deal with EVA. Imagine the protagonist of E7, which is made by the same guys who did EVA, being a whiny little brat from beginning to end and never learning anything, instead of being the whiny brat through 2/3rd of the anime before learning. Everyone in the series is just insane and they had to recut the ending multiple times because no one could figure it out. The original ending had cryptic images and text with voices going for 24 mins...nothing else. They redid it, actually animated the ending...it then still left people going "wtf?"
Some folks love it for all of that. They love that everyone is nuts and insane and never learn anything (Brick). I personally refuse to sit through it again. If I did, I'd probably shoot the TV aiming at the protagonist cause hes so infuriating. Now...the remake series is better. I saw, I think the first part of it, but they released it so far between that I just didn't keep up with it to see if it worked out in the end.
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First anime: It would be either Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Great Teacher Onizuka or Hotaru no Haka, sadly I don't reach that far with my memory, but those are 4 main anime I've seen when I was a little kid.
Favourite anime of all time: That would be Death Note all the way.
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): Can't say I watched any anime I'm seriously ashamed of, apart of the fact that I really don't like ecchi genre, yet have 2 friends that constantly advise me to watch certain ecchi titles, and I do... not COMPLETELY forced ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°).
Over-rated anime: Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni
Personal anime fact: I currently have 188 different anime on my list, with around 70 of them watched, and I rewatch all of them to refresh my memory, also adding the rest as new positions. The list keeps expanding, as well.
For the last few days I asked myself if I should post in this thread. Mostly because I had to cut off some questions that I have no way of answering, thus providing little to no information about my anime history, and having drastically different opinion about anime in the first place(I feel like I don't belong here ._.). Yet I did, basically just to ensure there's someone else watching anime on this forum :P
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I have a problem. I watched death note and code geass first, since then nothing have been close in my opinion.
I only watched things like cowboy bebop, paranoia agent and baccano! that I found somehow enjoyable.
I think its a problem with me losing interest if there are too much non-plot related bullshit going on. In code geass the random episodes of teenage problems I sat through painfully because it had clawed me in with the first episodes.
currently gonna give attack on titan a chance.
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currently gonna give attack on titan a chance.
Do give it a chance. I also have a really tough expectations from anime, but Shingeki No Kyojin definitely is worthwhile for me, hopefully it will be for you.
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currently gonna give attack on titan a chance.
Day 1: "Gonna give it a chance"
Giving it a chance: "Cool theme" "wow I like these characters" "this world is pretty cool" "I hope they expand the story about him and his mother" "OH MY GOD WHY DID THEY DO THAT *SOBS*" "EPISODE 2! NOW!" "Seid ihr das Essen? Nein, wir sind der Jager!!"
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I'd probably shoot the TV aiming at the protagonist cause hes so infuriating. Now...the remake series is better. I saw, I think the first part of it, but they released it so far between that I just didn't keep up with it to see if it worked out in the end.
I see what you did there..
I currently have 188 different anime on my list, with around 70 of them watched, and I rewatch all of them to refresh my memory, also adding the rest as new positions. The list keeps expanding, as well.
Weaaboo level >9000
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Got introduced to JoJo's Bizarre Adventure about 6 months ago and goddamn, it's taken over my entire anime and manga tastes. It's up there with my favorites: Cowboy Bebop, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, Watamote, Fist of the North Star...
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Short animes are the best. They stick to the point and avoid the draging out and filler that plagues some longer running animes *coughnarutoonepiececough*
Steins;Gate and Soul Eater are probably my favorite animes. I would recommend Steins;Gate to anyone for sure. The characters are strange but it is amazing. Soul Eater is just pretty awesome in general.
I pretty consistently keep up with Naruto, especially now that things are finally coming to a head.
I took a Summer and watched all of every Dragonball series since I didn't have cable growing up so I sort of missed out on that.
Various other animes I've watched, but none really made an impression on me (though Deathnote was pretty good).
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Short animes are the best. They stick to the point and avoid the draging out and filler that plagues some longer running animes *coughnarutoonepiececough*
Steins;Gate and Soul Eater are probably my favorite animes. I would recommend Steins;Gate to anyone for sure. The characters are strange but it is amazing. Soul Eater is just pretty awesome in general.
I pretty consistently keep up with Naruto, especially now that things are finally coming to a head.
I took a Summer and watched all of every Dragonball series since I didn't have cable growing up so I sort of missed out on that.
Various other animes I've watched, but none really made an impression on me (though Deathnote was pretty good).
I watched quite a few animes when I was younger, couldn't remember my favourite ones name though! so I spent ages looking and finally found it! I would massively recommend it to anyone, it's called Oban Star Racers. It's a 26 episode series where your protagonist "Molly" finds her father who left her at an orphanage and joins his racing team (imagine formula 1 meets pod racing), they are invited to the intergalactic race where lots of shit goes down and all in all it's got a gripping storyline, good soundtrack, the characters have a lot to them and racing scenes are incredibly well done, there is about 1 per episode and the rest is character development and hyping the next race!
Also, every episode is available on youtube.. which is a +1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnxm1MSFr4&list=PLE0C71B072DDC102E
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so you guys are having a Anime Discussion so if i have never watch any or never got hooked what would be the best series to start on or watch ?
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Deathnote is really pretty good. It has elements of the weird you will find in anime, but has a really cool psychological quandary along with some cool Sherlock-esque deductions. It is also pretty short (~40 episodes). If you look into it you can let us know which parts are yay and which parts are nay and we can guide you to something else. One thing it sort of lacks is the action scenes.
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so you guys are having a Anime Discussion so if i have never watch any or never got hooked what would be the best series to start on or watch ?
While Death Note's not a bad place to start, I'd probably recommend Fullmetal Alchemist, preferably Brotherhood, though both are good. If you're a fan of Sci-fi, Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone Complex is a great place to start. For what it's worth, my roommate recently got into anime by watching Sword Art Online with me.
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I have to second Ghost in the Shell, it's a fantastic anime with a bit of a philosophical side to it. And it does have some amazing action scenes.
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so you guys are having a Anime Discussion so if i have never watch any or never got hooked what would be the best series to start on or watch ?
Definitely something from the better anime, that are also quite popular, the ones worth looking at are for example:
Death Note
FullMetal Alchemist + FMA: Brotherhood
Code Geass
Fate/Stay Night
Hellsing
Cowboy Bebop
Great Teacher Onizuka
Darker than Black
Elfen Lied
Angel Beats
Shingeki No Kyojin
It wouldn't be a bad idea to check the popular shounens either, like Naruto, One Piece, Bleach, or Hunter X Hunter. As much as they tend to drag them for too long, with some arcs being worse than others (Tite Kubo, I'm looking at you) and they are full of fillers, they are still quite nice overall, especially the beginnings of all the shows, when you clearly see author had a plan :P. Definitely something good to start your adventure with anime, nothing to set your expectations too high like the titles above, so you won't be like Skrim with "nothing compares to my first anime anymore :<" , but not bad either, simply enjoyable.
And, obviously, movies, like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Hotaru no Haka, and Toshio Suzuki's movies:
Howl no Ugoku Shiro
Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
Mononoke Hime
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And, obviously, movies, like Akira, Ghost in the Shell, Hotaru no Haka, and Toshio Suzuki's movies:
Howl no Ugoku Shiro
Sen to Chihiro no Kamikakushi
Mononoke Hime
Huh, I've never seen anyone reference those as anything but Hayao Miyazaki films. I had to look up who Suzuki is (he's the producer, for those interested). The english names for the listed films are Howl's Moving Castle, Spirited Away, and Princess Mononoke.
As a side note, I had the chance to see Princess Mononoke in a theater recently, a nearby museum was putting on a Miyazaki month and had obtained the original 35mm reels. It was a really cool experience.
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Huh, I've never seen anyone reference those as anything but Hayao Miyazaki films.
Ah, sorry, my bad. TBH I didn't know the exact name of the Director, so I just looked up the first name from the staff on myanimelist assuming it was him ._.
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First anime: DragonBall here also
Favourite anime of all time: Kill La Kill, Samurai Champloo, Panty and Stocking
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): Azumanga Daioh
Most hated antagonist: The protagonist of Gantz. Hated everything about him
Most loved protagonist: Luffy (One Piece)
Fav Anti-hero: Sazuki (Kill La Kill)
Waifu: Kneesocks (Panty and stocking)
Over-rated anime: Bleach
Under-rated anime: Paranormal Agent and Watamote
Sub or Dub: I do research first, watch an episode on both languages. Review a bit, then decide. It mostly ends in Sub.
Personal anime fact: My art style was inspired heavily by manga and mostly Anime. But then i saw a pattern that put me off. And this pattern is the reason why animes can be made so quickly and why many artists in japan have this style. Long story short, the characters are simplified to anime standards. There are only few anime that i like and il eason out more later.
More Info: I personaly strive to find short anime series that have a unique [something] to them.
Let me list the animes that are favourite and unique Imo (Note i dont watch anime like crazy)
One Piece for its Setting and Character designs. Rest of the anime is pretty anime, but it keeps me with its humor and creativity. Didnt watch too much though.
Paranormal Agent is probably the most mature anime along with being super deep. Kiddies that expect an obvious story cant and will not understand paranormal agent, but i like it when they make it as deep and creative as Paranormal Agent did and it satisfied me and tought the end was fitting.
Kill La Kill not for its story, but got damn celebration of expressing japanese animation. There is so much i love about kill la kills personality of an anime that its just likable. The animation, the creativity, its just so great and funny.
Samurai Champloo the theme of this is sunglasses cool. Instead of EPIC violin music, you get modern day hip hop. Completely changin the atmosphere where the characters are in a way in contrast and fitting with the anime. There is something that clicks so well with Samurai Champloo.
Space Dandy being a very slippy western comedy anime, but is very unique in the structure. I find Space dandy an anime i want to see more of because they have a setting they use in a very fun and creative way. The anime also is in a very good quality. Not the best ANIME but its incredibly good the more technical you look into it. This is also a DUB for me.
And now
Panty and Stocking This is by far my most favourite Anime. Style, Setting, Theme, Humor, adult(Not mature), Music, Animation and designs are just soo well done. This is by far the best direction anime can go, and thus is why Kill La Kill is an anime i like.
Many of the animes today are over Dramatic(Bunch of serious slice of lifes), overly action packed (Bleach, naruto and etc), Underplanned(Animes with underwhelming fantasies), and animes stuck in basic anime structure (Attack on titan suffers a bit on this as an example, animes that end in cliffhangers, animes with tons flashbacks, etc etc) Rarely do you find well planned anime that fit with everything they do. Pokemon is probably the best example of a well planned one. Alot of people forget this but Pokemon is a sci fi with alternate setting on animals. This is a unique take they dig deep in and show a world based on it. Cowboy Bepop, same deal. Attack On titan, again, they have a world they stick to. And so on. No animes enchant the viewer into the world like the animes ive mentioned and some that are my favourite.
For Japanese animated movies, ide say Sword of the Stranger and Akira can show you exactly what i mean.
Sword of the Stranger being my top 1 most favourite japanese related animation.
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Paranormal Agent is probably the most mature anime along with being super deep. Kiddies that expect an obvious story cant and will not understand paranormal agent, but i like it when they make it as deep and creative as Paranormal Agent did and it satisfied me and tought the end was fitting.
I think (or at least hope) you're referring to Paranoia Agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_Agent). If so, excellent choice. Satoshi Kon was such an amazing director, every single one of his works is a crazy look at the human psyche and are just amazing. His works are all very literary: there's always layers of meaning and an active conversation in the themes and symbols. There's always some kind of commentary about our modern world interwoven in his works that leaves you with more to chew on than just the plot of each movie or series. I really wish he hadn't died so early.
If you haven't, I highly recommend all of his films (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satoshi_Kon#Works), but Paprika especially. The soundtrack and the amazing visuals are incredible.
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Nice job at not mentioning AoT or SAO at all Crafek! I now REALLY need to watch Kill La Kill!
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I think (or at least hope) you're referring to Paranoia Agent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranoia_Agent). If so, excellent choice.
Its not the first time ive made that mistake XD
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Short animes are the best. They stick to the point and avoid the draging out and filler that plagues some longer running animes *coughnarutoonepiececough*
Steins;Gate and Soul Eater are probably my favorite animes.
I heard Steins;Gate is also a visual novel style game (or perhaps the other way around), have you played it, and if so, is it any good?
Also I second the notion that shorter animes are best.
NGE (neon genesis evangelion) is basically the benchmark for all anime, and if you haven't watched it you really should.
FLCL is also a great one, though tbh I didn't like the animation much. Its hit or miss, and only 6 episodes, but a staple of the "standard" anime diet.
Last Exile - How has noone mentioned this yet? This is THE anime for all you airship lovers. Beautiful scenery, airship naval combat, stunning blend of painted works and CGI. Caution: if you do watch this, you may have undeniable urges to scream IMMELMANN TURN when piloting your ship.
If you like one shot movies (such as Studio Ghibli films) you'll probably want to check out
Grave of the Fireflies - this is super depressing though.
The Place Promised in Our Early Days/Beyond the Clouds, the Promised Place - (it has two names). Absolutely beautiful graphics, and touching story.
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Last Exile - How has noone mentioned this yet? This is THE anime for all you airship lovers. Beautiful scenery, airship naval combat, stunning blend of painted works and CGI. Caution: if you do watch this, you may have undeniable urges to scream IMMELMANN TURN when piloting your ship.
Last Exile was pretty good, but the storyline was just too convoluted.
And sadly, Last Exile 2 was just complete crap :(
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Last Exile - How has noone mentioned this yet? This is THE anime for all you airship lovers. Beautiful scenery, airship naval combat, stunning blend of painted works and CGI. Caution: if you do watch this, you may have undeniable urges to scream IMMELMANN TURN when piloting your ship.
Last Exile was pretty good, but the storyline was just too convoluted.
And sadly, Last Exile 2 was just complete crap :(
I actually didn't realize there was a sequel, but I found the original storyline to be easy enough to follow. Its only the post-ending extrapolation that gets convoluted and unexplained. I thought in itself the anime is a pretty contained story.
Plus Dio is awesome.
I haven't seen a SINGLE Sylvana in GoIO, which is super depressing.
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I am watching Attack on Titan and I used to watch Pokemon. I'm not really an anime guy. But AOT is pretty good, so who knows.
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I am watching Attack on Titan and I used to watch Pokemon. I'm not really an anime guy. But AOT is pretty good, so who knows.
Good! if you haven't watched many it means there is more you haven't seen! Basically watch anything that's been mentioned in my OP or the rest of the thread.. not seen anything I've disagreed with so far!
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I dunno Elfen Lied and NGE are pretty brutal animes that might make people think twice heh.
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The Place Promised in Our Early Days/Beyond the Clouds, the Promised Place - (it has two names). Absolutely beautiful graphics, and touching story.
If you liked Promised Place, I highly recommend watching some of Makoto Shinkai's other films, especially 5 Centimeters Per Second and Voices of a Distant Star. I like to pair these with The Girl Who Lept Through Time and have a marathon.
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Y'know, every now and then I think hmmm, maybe I'm just kinda over watching anime...
And then something like Mekakucity Actors comes out.
So good. So very very good.
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First anime: Berserk
Favourite anime of all time: This is a tie Between Berserk Golden Age Arc and the two Darker Than Black Seasons/OVA
Favourite anime this season: Akuma No Riddle
Favourite anime last season: Kill La Kill
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): Strawberry Panic!
Most hated antagonist: Griffith. That guy needs to die.
Most loved protagonist: Ohtorizawa Akatsuki from Hagure Yuusha no Estetica guy is just hilarious.
Favourite relationship: Too many to name sorry.
Waifu: Can't say I've thought about it.
Over-rated anime: Attack On Titan
Under-rated anime: Psycho Pass
Personal anime fact:
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The Place Promised in Our Early Days/Beyond the Clouds, the Promised Place - (it has two names). Absolutely beautiful graphics, and touching story.
If you liked Promised Place, I highly recommend watching some of Makoto Shinkai's other films, especially 5 Centimeters Per Second and Voices of a Distant Star. I like to pair these with The Girl Who Lept Through Time and have a marathon.
Oh I absolutely hated 5cm per second. The first part was good but the last 2 segments was just a downward spiral till you wanted to beat the crap out of the main characters. Place Promised was wonderful but it takes more than one watch to really see everything in it.
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I recently started watching El Cazador, I'm liking what I've seen so far.
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One of my friends talked me into watching Steins; Gate today...
Uh... Still not sure what the actual plot is...
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Stick with it, its good. Pay attention to everything tho because stuff early on will make more sense towards the end. It is one of those shows where the plot is a bit obscured and takes time to be revealed.
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One of my friends talked me into watching Steins; Gate today...
Uh... Still not sure what the actual plot is...
That's pretty par for the course for anime, not knowing what's actually going on for the first few episodes.
Stick with it, it's worth it.
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Jesus Christ how can there not be a single comment about GuP. Are you guys even trying
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Two summers of all girl cast animes...no wait, it was 3 summers...made me utterly despise any anime that at least doesn't have some form of wang in it. Not that I don't like female leads/etc. Its just...THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!! Zomg, I've never seen more generic anime in my life than all female cast shows. Most of them try too hard to be "moe" and have absolutely moronic stories and even worse heavy cliched characters. Not that I haven't liked some, but during the summer over the last 5 years, the studios in Japan have for some reason overloaded the summer season with them and there is so much crap...utter...discolored...malformed...rancid smelling...crap.
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yes, give in to total feminization of chinese cartoon demographic. Moe is all you need.
btw. watch sabagebu it's the shit
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I just want to get something off my chest, felt like this is a right thread to do so:
I am usually more annoyed not by a complete feminisation of the characters in anime, but forced sexually suggestive content in every genre. Say all you want about Naruto, Bleach or One Piece, I enjoy them because fanservice is rarely ever implemented in it to the point of completely focusing the plot of the series on getting busty girls naked via the most ridiculous means and pushing the protagonist's faces in their breasts, which is probably of any value in ecchi genre, but I currently see it in every single genre as a way to strive from the main story and as a distraction from plotholes and poor plot complexity and character development. If you like ecchi, go on, watch it, I don't like it much, so I watch other genres, but since when did it become a standard to make ecchi out of every single anime? I constantly keep hearing people's opinions about Fairy Tail/Bakemonogatari/Sword Art Online/High School of the Dead/Magi/No Game No Life as of being "the best anime they've ever seen", and then I watch it and see nothing but a maybe 5/10 quality anime with perverted moment every 2 minutes, which I consider being a slap in the face to every single anime that the creators didn't have to go as low as to force fanservice to keep it all going, and at the same time still making much better anime out of it than whatever's been included in those "seinen/shounen/godknowswhatelse" wannabe ecchi anime. I recently end up watching anime that were made in 2007 or before, for it seems that everything newer is the same cheesy, low quality, repetitive soft-p0rn, and I don't watch it for keeping my hormones buzzing. Is it so hard to come up with an interesting story and avoid undressing main characters for the purpose of gathering its fans and viewers?
That is all.
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I guess it has to do with the popularization of anime with the male crowd, not saying that it's becoming popular, but rather the fact that I'd say a lot of men watch anime for that silly "Fanservice" that seems to be prevalent these days. While I myself don't mind the occasional fanservice, the fact that it's exceedingly blatant that it's one of the very few things that could actually keep people watching bothers me. Of course I'll keep watching in the hope that it does get better.
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Yep, completely agree Delta. There sadly isn't a lot of original anime nowadays because they all try to stoop to fanservice episodes to boost ratings. In any anime, it will often have...an onsen scene, beach scene, karaoke scene, girls talking about breast size scenes, the one girl who is strangely obsessed with boobs and has to fondle everyone scenes, and loads of sexual innuendo scenes where they hint at it but are always interrupted or never go far.
I think theres a few more overused ones on top of that...oh right, the girls are obsessed with eating scenes. Just about half the scenes in some anime are with characters eating or pigging out. Which makes you wonder how everyone there isn't fat.
Then of course lets not forget...first episode waking up and realizing late so run to school with bread in mouth scene because for some reason they haven't mastered the ability to eat on the go.
All in all, there are way too many cliche shows. Everyone copies everyone there. However, there is also a lot of decent ones mixed in. Some copies improve or do ideas better than the predecessor. Then you have a few which say the heck with tropes and decides to be more original. They might get some generic characters but the storyline isn't predictable.
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To be fair though, this is all very similar to mainstream TV and movies as well. A litany of crap, with a sprinkling of awesome.
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I'd still rather watch a ton of crap anime than sit through 5 minutes of western entertainment...cept for Castle because...Nathan Fillion.
Mostly because Japan allows more creativity still. Western studios are all about churning out money makers. They don't want to take risks and so they rehash plots or outright just reboot left and right. Got a friend who was a producer and shes now working in Hollywood trying to go into acting. Had a lot of great talks with her a couple years back about how bad the studios really are. Even some of the decent ones are adopting the business models of the big studios. Why our entertainment is just getting worse and worse.
When you compare us to Japan, just no contest. Japan studios win. But little sad recently, they've begun rebooting stuff too. Last season it was Broken Blade, which did not need a reboot at all, just another series. Then this season its Psycho Pass. I can understand if it is an anime from the 70s which is one of the foundations of modern anime like Space Battleship Yamato, which got a remake and it is awesome. But Broken Blade and Psycho Pass? Really? Just dumb. No point in rebooting so soon. Just reusing old animation, add some filler, cheap profits. Ugg...the Broken Blade reboot theme song is horrific. Made me want to edit all the episodes and recut in the Fate theme song from the original animation release.
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I'd still rather watch a ton of crap anime than sit through 5 minutes of western entertainment...cept for Castle because...Nathan Fillion.
Mostly because Japan allows more creativity still. Western studios are all about churning out money makers. They don't want to take risks and so they rehash plots or outright just reboot left and right. Got a friend who was a producer and shes now working in Hollywood trying to go into acting. Had a lot of great talks with her a couple years back about how bad the studios really are. Even some of the decent ones are adopting the business models of the big studios. Why our entertainment is just getting worse and worse.
When you compare us to Japan, just no contest. Japan studios win. But little sad recently, they've begun rebooting stuff too. Last season it was Broken Blade, which did not need a reboot at all, just another series. Then this season its Psycho Pass. I can understand if it is an anime from the 70s which is one of the foundations of modern anime like Space Battleship Yamato, which got a remake and it is awesome. But Broken Blade and Psycho Pass? Really? Just dumb. No point in rebooting so soon. Just reusing old animation, add some filler, cheap profits. Ugg...the Broken Blade reboot theme song is horrific. Made me want to edit all the episodes and recut in the Fate theme song from the original animation release.
So basicly you're comparing the one movie industry with the other without knowing the other all? (judging from the first sentence)
If you ask me Hollywood still winns at the better movies and series. Animation wise they're clearly behind but just look at Pixar or Dreamworks they got a great list of good movies.
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After having a film as lit class in college many years ago...I cannot ever see Hollywood in a positive light. Their stories are so predictable and rehashed it is just sad. Before the class, I generally liked them, after...I just couldn't enjoy the mindless entertainment it was churning out. Which is what the professor said. He warned us that the class would either ruin our abilities to watch movies or give us a new perspective and allow us to enjoy them more. For me, it was both. Ruined me for western entertainment but made me look at eastern which I had never looked at seriously before then.
Dreamworks/Pixar movies are sadly not like they used to be. Course Disney has their hands in them and anything Disney touches turns to crap right now, at least from a story perspective. Disney is the king of rehashing plot ideas. The Fox counterpart that did Epic and the Ice Age series is better but I'd still rate them only par. They're willing to go outside the lines more but they still keep to a few tried and true tropes.
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Ok, any Gundam fans out there? Whatever you do, don't watch Gundam G no Reconguista...unless you want to watch a show written by a grade schooler. I kid you not. The characters and the world is actually good. The problem is everything is completely disjointed and nothing is explained. Even when you finally get an understanding of it, the next scene they do something which blows that understanding out the window. It really is like you are watching a kid playing and making it up as they went. I've stayed with it just because it is now entertaining trying to figure out where the story is going to go next or try to at least make sense why someone in Japan green lighted this.
Oh and be ready for lots of...ballet dancing...things...I dunno what the hell they are. But the intermission scene has a member of the cast doing a brief dance move. So here you have this heroic mecha battle happening and the next second you have a character prancing. NAN DE?!!!
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TSUKAME PURAAAIIDOOOO!
What Gilder says is mostly true. G Reco is written by Tomino, the original writer for Gundam, Zeta Double Zeta, and Turn A Gundam. Therefore it has this kiddish feelings, because he never ment for it to be written for adults. The series is very wishy washy and has a very happy feeling to it, even when characters die or feel sad. It differs from more serious series like the Alternative universes SEED, 00 or Wing in that regard.
If you are going to watch it, atleast go into it with a childlike mind, since thats the target audience Tomino wanted to fall in love with the show, like how people fell in love with the original gundam in 1979.
That said, are you watching Build Fighters Try, Gilder?
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...so I spent ages looking and finally found it! I would massively recommend it to anyone, it's called Oban Star Racers.
Also, every episode is available on youtube.. which is a +1!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLnxm1MSFr4&list=PLE0C71B072DDC102E
THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU SO SO MUCH! I looked FOREVER for that anime and I just couldn't find it! +ovar 9000 Salutes!
The first time I saw it, I didn't even know what anime was, and I'm pretty sure I couldn't read, sooo...
All I remembered was Pod Racing but not. (I loved Star Wars.)
My favourite anime so far would be SAO, my most hated antagonist is Orochimaru, my favourite protag is Luffy D. Monkey, mainly because he's a dumbadass. Waifu is Satellizer L. Bridgette from Freezing. Don't judge me.
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TSUKAME PURAAAIIDOOOO!
What Gilder says is mostly true. G Reco is written by Tomino, the original writer for Gundam, Zeta Double Zeta, and Turn A Gundam. Therefore it has this kiddish feelings, because he never ment for it to be written for adults. The series is very wishy washy and has a very happy feeling to it, even when characters die or feel sad. It differs from more serious series like the Alternative universes SEED, 00 or Wing in that regard.
If you are going to watch it, atleast go into it with a childlike mind, since thats the target audience Tomino wanted to fall in love with the show, like how people fell in love with the original gundam in 1979.
That said, are you watching Build Fighters Try, Gilder?
Nah the toy Gundam series just didn't spark my interest so I never looked into it. But if Reconguista is made by the original writer then...how the hell did that series ever get so huge? Its mental insanity just trying to watch it. But what really annoys about Reconguista is it has an older age demographic based on the character ages, however it still is like this. If he had done this to Gundam AGE I would have understood as AGE had younger protagonists. Cept AGE, despite the cliche moments, turned out a lot better than this in it's story.
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Ehh. I mean. Phase 2 of AGE was kinda nice, had a story I personally liked, despite its' shallow characters. I think people are having problem relating to Tomino's idea of having an easygoing story. Believe it or not, AGE was actually meant to draw in younger people, but when they did demographic tests on which character was the most liked, it was Asemu: The relative "oldest" protagonist of his Arc.
In Japan, Reco is one of those sunday morning shows that kids are able to watch without having to know too much, it's got the typical nonsensical dialogue (Klim Nick shouting nonsense in battle, similarly to for example Kamille going "I hate adults!" while cutting a mobile suit in half with his sword), that has come to be known by his writing style. It's not the first I've heard of it though. Many older fans don't like it, personally I think it's fine, he panders towards a medium that he wants to write to.
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If his goal is to set up mech battles, then he is succeeding. But there is no structure or story at all. People are changing sides on a whim and there is no meaning behind any of it other than to set up battles. The only age demographic where I can see this tripe fitting into would be maybe the kindergardener or early grade schooler who has no attention span and can handle a series that literally reinvents itself every episode.
Well...I guess if this is considered a style and people like it then that means there is hope for any writer. I believe I'll peg Tomino as the Michael Bay of anime from now on. The only thing I can do now is...hope Chuchumy gains sentience and goes Attack on Titan all over the cast. Its the only sensible ending that I can think as revenge for sticking him in that ball and giving him to a mental patient. Then Chuchumy gains the ability to transcend reality and has a hunger for Tomino which leads to the next Godzilla movie where Tomino runs to Godzilla for help then Godzilla looks at the titan goldfish, then at Tomino, then stomps on him as hard as he can...then Godzilla and Chuchumy wipe out all mankind...yay!
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...then Godzilla and Chuchumy wipe out all mankind...yay!
Step 1: wait until they finish with Tokyo.
Step 2: Launch ALL the nukes!
Step 3: ? ? ?
Step4: PROFIT!
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If his goal is to set up mech battles, then he is succeeding. But there is no structure or story at all. People are changing sides on a whim and there is no meaning behind any of it other than to set up battles. The only age demographic where I can see this tripe fitting into would be maybe the kindergardener or early grade schooler who has no attention span and can handle a series that literally reinvents itself every episode.
Well...I guess if this is considered a style and people like it then that means there is hope for any writer. I believe I'll peg Tomino as the Michael Bay of anime from now on. The only thing I can do now is...hope Chuchumy gains sentience and goes Attack on Titan all over the cast. Its the only sensible ending that I can think as revenge for sticking him in that ball and giving him to a mental patient. Then Chuchumy gains the ability to transcend reality and has a hunger for Tomino which leads to the next Godzilla movie where Tomino runs to Godzilla for help then Godzilla looks at the titan goldfish, then at Tomino, then stomps on him as hard as he can...then Godzilla and Chuchumy wipe out all mankind...yay!
I think you're going abit ham on a guy that writes shows for kids. I mean, that's like calling A.A. Milne the Nolan of cartoons just because his characters have deeper associations. Sure the guy makes supah robuttuh fightuh animuh, so he skimps on as much as the plot so that a kid can just go: "Yeah! Robot fighting!" instead of going: "Hrmm! I wonder if the relations between the Amerian army and Capital Tower is caused by a long strived conflict where the Capital has refused to lend aid to either of the Gondwan or Amerian armies and sought their own betterment in technology!"
For that matter, if you knew more about Tomino himself, perhaps watcjing some of the older series like Zeta, you'd know that the guy is pretty good at writing a dark and dysfunctional asset of characters. The series portrays all of the darkness in humans and manages to do it so that an adult can see it immediately, where kids only vaguely understand it, whilst looking at Awesome robot fights.
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Japan has other fighting robot shows that have some sense of a story. Just because it is for kids doesn't mean it has to be terrible.
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Nothing wrong in a light-hearted show. I think it's best to agree to disagree here.
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Lighthearted shows can have a plot.
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this is the country that made japanese robo-cop that killed criminals and smoked cigarettes full of uranium to charge his batteries.
and it was a kids show.
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Exactly, but it had a plot. Something tangible for minds to grasp. G Reconguista has none. Good characters, interesting world, but completely scatter brained story. If I had kids I'd let them watch the killer chain smoking radioactive robot before letting them watch Reconguista. They at least grow up thinking all police are radioactive killer robots, instead of having the attention spans of chuchumy.
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As Vague as it is, there definitely is a plot behind this. But instead of having an overlapping "We need to get to X to kill Y" kinda of plot, it's mostly character-driven. Bellri, the soul-less jester that he is, has varying morality, and wavers on the sides. This happened originally because he helped an enemy soldiers whos' captain he had murdered. Being on the Amerian side, he decided to stick around to get intel on it, (like when he took photos of the amerian space army in the G-self). This could prove important to him, unfortunately that's also where his loyalty wavers, since he unknowingly kills his own teacher in combat.
Rarayia Monday has some sort of connection to the G-self, it'll probably all be explained later, bottomline is, she's probably important(?)
For the sake of the Capital Tower, there's an obvious conflcit between the Army and the Guard. The two sides have each their own methods, and you can feel the coup d'etat brewing.
Reco is suuuper scattered, yeah. It befits the attention of my bigger brother when were younger, and I can manage to drop my scholar's hat off and sit down for abit of messy fun. In the end, sure, it could be a Little Prince masterpiece where you can reread it every 10 years and get a whole new understanding, or some sort of new thriller movie with a hollywood plot ripped straight off of Sigmund Freud with Christian Bale as the cop. But, it's.. Fun. The characters are easy to understand, you can belay your time with jumping into it and grasping the concept without having to watch 13 episodes running up to it.
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I'll give it one good mark out of the horrific mess that it is...
This: (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-e5pikjdmH6M/VDi4MCOxjPI/AAAAAAAAASI/rkJwi2K9mo0/s1600/toilet.gif)
You know what this means...they're flying around in giant flying toilets. So the next question, in the space battles, why aren't the high action fight sequences broken up by a floater drifting across the screen? There is no gravity...stuff inside that toilet should be flowing out and into the cockpit. Between that and the crotch lasers/missiles and the other stupidity, I did manage a few laughs. Also thinking up reasons for Tomino's sick fascination with balls...they're everywhere. Chuchumy, water, that moronic talking robot that is perpetually in every Gundam series...balls...nothing but balls!!
Gah...sigh...oh well, least I have Denki-gai no Honya-san to break up the moments of Reconguista's instanity:
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Moving on, Grisaia no Kajitsu.
Its a show that certainly has it's moments. Although I'd classify it as a dark harem show. The guy is an emotionless killer and the girls are a mixture of tropes. But what has stood out as been some of the episodes which just get surreal. You don't expect some of the dark tones with the girls. Being buried alive, blown up/etc. Then the protagonist just walking in and blowing someone's brains out without letting them speak much of anything. Its a bit edgy at times and has made it somewhat fresh compared to other shows.
However...the Angelic Howl arc atm...pretty much the most moronic survival story I've ever seen. I'll try not to spoil it but for 2 episodes now I keep asking,"why is there no signal fire?" The other story arcs are decent and interesting but this...pretty much has ruined the show. I'm suddenly rooting for the characters to be eaten by a bear so I don't have to watch anymore stupidity.
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Fairy Tail 2014 should be renamed Fan Service Tail. I don't think Lucy has worn real clothes for one episode this season and most of the time they reuse the same gags to get her into swimsuits/etc. In fact, the whole cast now is on a swimsuit regime.
Sad, was a fun show at one time. Even got a Fairy Tail emblem on my car. Now...its like they gave the series over to some real tropey writers.
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...real tropey writers.
Tropes are not bad; They are tools. Any tool used incorrectly is bad, and any tool that is overused loses effect.
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...real tropey writers.
Tropes are not bad; They are tools. Any tool used incorrectly is bad, and any tool that is overused loses effect.
Yes but if the tropes are so excessively prominent critics will merely say the above thing. If done correctly yes, they can be good. But examples of poor use of tropes is the reliance of them to create a character/story.
Anyway. Posted here to remark upon a random thought/challenge.
Would a woman ever have the drive to break a male tsundere? Barring perhaps Yandere and generic harem titles, nothing comes close. And technically they didn't conquer that male character so... yeah. Usually anime's version of male seduction is removing clothes (unless it yaoi by which point its just rape/woman in a man's body-hence yaoi is boring).
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Harem animes have really gone down hill over the last decade. Most of them that air, within the first 5-10 mins, I can figure out who is going to be the lead girl. Then they throw in a ton of girls thinking it is confusing you when really all of them are so tropey that you just can ignore them. Then you have the ones where they have a beautiful story and character interactions and they ruin it by throwing in a wild girl who breaks up every scene with groping. Ai Yori Aoshi is the best example of this. First 5 episodes are gold. Then they add the "american" wild girl who gropes everyone. Series totally loses it's charm after that.
Think theres only been one harem series in the last few years which caught me offguard. It was based on a VN I think but the anime they did a total twist by the mid point. The lead girl had almost no screen time and then this other anime vet girl got all of it and it was sealed. It was somewhat sloppy because they invested so heavily in the lead's character, but then they went the opposite way with it towards the end. So in a way it was surprising but in another way, kind of a waste of time in the first half.
Course its not much better with female lead harems. There has been some gems but more often than not, they're just as terrible. I swore off giving them a chance after the last one I saw where literally if you watched episode 1 and 12, you wouldn't miss anything. They spent 10 episodes on pointless crap and her clear pick was the first guy she meets. Course it was more of a supernatural action series so there was something to keep interest. However, the bad guys were so OP they'd never finish the job. They'd attack, be about to accomplish their goal, then get bored or something and leave the protagonists to recover. The story in those 10 episodes went through this cycle of getting ass kicked, then macho confidence building time, then ass kicked again. When I saw the show got a 2nd season I was like...no fing way am I going to give that any chance! People said season 2 was better and not as bad as the first but I was more like...why the hell did it even get a season 2?
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Genre vs Author skill
I read a huge variety of genres. Even Yaoi (though they are kinda boring-fujoshi are such boring writers).
The only measure of skill in a writer is when your story seems to be without genre. When its such a nebulous story that you can't pin it down.
And usually the cycle goes, this story is founded as a new genre in and of itself.
Minecraft for example or the zombie genre.
However such things only occur very rarely as it comes into two issues.
1. appealing to an audience. unfamiliarity sometimes makes it hard for a reader to understand or find the hook, or even for a writer to craft a good one. Tropes lure in readers, it lures in aspect of thing people like in a story (not necessarily genre but maybe aspects of them). Complete lack of them denies yourself a readership.
2. direction. Many attempts into this pioneering can actually result into nothing as the direction isn't clear and result into stepping into your own toes.
So to answer your harem complaint gilder, what you should be looking for is not the genre, but the appeal of the synopsis to you. Thinking in genres limits your range in stimuli. Use genres as a point of origin as opposed to a point of destination.
e.g. evangelion rebuild is a harem anime because of all the jail bait(as well as cougars) all over shinji ikari.
saying so ignores what else the anime is. It has harem aspects, but you can't just say its a harem story just because it has a harem attribute.
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Ya know what was funny awhile back...there was a survey of anime in Japan. The top things people hated were just about all the major anime tropes. I was surprised a little by it because when you see things used consistently, you know there is marketing behind it which leads you to believe that people there all like it. Fanservice shows always look like money grabs because they'll reuse old gags constantly. Made me think,"wow, people there actually are getting tired of the same stuff I am!"
Yeah the better shows are the ones which can cross genre. But what I really hate are the ones which clearly are copies of another and rely completely on certain tropes to get viewers. Then what is worse, is those shows get a US release ahead of shows which were so much better. Going on a decade now and we still haven't gotten a release of Lovely Complex here yet copy trope shows do.
Fairy Tail has been crossing over into this territory. They've gotten writers which are using trope after trope and it is clear they are doing it to keep viewers. Which there is no point to. The show was good without needing that. It was an action battle series. It got viewers without any effort because of that. But they stop sequences all the time now to showcase Lucy in a bikini (again) or another cast member in a moe shot (again)...######!!!! Stop it you bottom feeding , waste of oxygen, writers!!!
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Ya know what was funny awhile back...there was a survey of anime in Japan. The top things people hated were just about all the major anime tropes. I was surprised a little by it because when you see things used consistently, you know there is marketing behind it which leads you to believe that people there all like it. Fanservice shows always look like money grabs because they'll reuse old gags constantly. Made me think,"wow, people there actually are getting tired of the same stuff I am!"
Yeah the better shows are the ones which can cross genre. But what I really hate are the ones which clearly are copies of another and rely completely on certain tropes to get viewers. Then what is worse, is those shows get a US release ahead of shows which were so much better. Going on a decade now and we still haven't gotten a release of Lovely Complex here yet copy trope shows do.
Fairy Tail has been crossing over into this territory. They've gotten writers which are using trope after trope and it is clear they are doing it to keep viewers. Which there is no point to. The show was good without needing that. It was an action battle series. It got viewers without any effort because of that. But they stop sequences all the time now to showcase Lucy in a bikini (again) or another cast member in a moe shot (again)...######!!!! Stop it you bottom feeding , waste of oxygen, writers!!!
It seems you're mistaking writers for producers. They have the money so they have control of whatever content goes into it.
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decided to finally try out mahou shoujo madoka despite the horrifying anatomy.
Oh dear god so much lesbian undertone. And not the cool kind like magical lyrical nanoha.
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Magical girl shows...
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/kill_it_with_fire.gif)
I thank Japan for those 2 years where both summers were back to back either magical girl shows or all girl cast animes. They were the years when Naruto filler, even in its most mundane, moronic, horrific form, was actually quality anime and gave you a momentary reprieve from the nightmare. Every summer since I've cringed with fingers crossed till I see the lineup. Its like a giant zombie you forgot to double tap...all you can do is say "please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead..." I can't believe they got away with 2 years of that.
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Magical girl shows...
(http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/kill_it_with_fire.gif)
I thank Japan for those 2 years where both summers were back to back either magical girl shows or all girl cast animes. They were the years when Naruto filler, even in its most mundane, moronic, horrific form, was actually quality anime and gave you a momentary reprieve from the nightmare. Every summer since I've cringed with fingers crossed till I see the lineup. Its like a giant zombie you forgot to double tap...all you can do is say "please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead, please stay dead..." I can't believe they got away with 2 years of that.
But but...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpK-7K70ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY6QCX0HPxg
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I saw cardcaptors off and on decades ago. Wasn't really a fan but watched it as it came before another show I was more into. But that was before Japan was conquered by Moe. If it was redone for today, it would be ultra moe, with all female cast, heavy yuri undertones, and lots of groping.
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I saw cardcaptors off and on decades ago. Wasn't really a fan but watched it as it came before another show I was more into. But that was before Japan was conquered by Moe. If it was redone for today, it would be ultra moe, with all female cast, heavy yuri undertones, and lots of groping.
Not gonna deny that does occur. But mostly on stuff thats got a tiny ass budget.
And err... you are aware clamp still makes this stuff... only less lesbian and more gay (they made their break via the doujin market making yaoi).
Really gotta take my advice on the whole, don't read via genre. Only by execution. Many great works are in genres you seemingly hate. Even the moe stuff you hate can appeal to you if the right author uses them. And like I said genre is a very subjective thing.
take this show for example.
Is this a magical girl show because it has magical people in it?
http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/rokujouma-no-shinryakusha-online
Is it an outright ecchi/harem series merely because the main guy is surrounded by a female supporting cast?
Does the lack of active plot progression (as in, an outright antagonist), make this in actuality slice of life despite the non-mundane features of it?
Is the legend of korra a magical girl series? it's definitely a girl with magical powers, fighting bad guys with magic.
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Since 07 I've probably seen more anime than most folks outside of otakus. I even made some clear otakus in my Japanese courses question what I had seen cause they more specialized in watching certain genres only. I branched into just about every genre. Even genres I traditionally didn't like, Mechas, I branched into. Then I went back and covered a lot of the classics. When you go back and then go forwards, you really can see the shifts in styles and storytelling in Japan. Things tend to go in batches. Every few years, there is a shift. Each shift tends to be led by a major genre defining anime which everyone has to copy or improve. Trouble is, I see a lot of stuff that gets rehashed which is usually terrible.
Shinryakusha was more of a harem. There was a single magical girl character in it and she was a complete dunce, which was awesome. The series was more comedy centered. Even when a nemesis comes out, its still never serious. Lot of genre crossing mixed in. I watched it through, it had it's moments. I'd watch a season 2 of it but it wouldn't be the top of my list.
I don't hate moe completely, I just hate when it is used in certain things or they rely completely on it to get viewers. Some moe characters are fine but when they cross the line and make a whole series about it, then its painful to watch cause all they can do is spout trope after trope.
I watched part of a season of Korra and lost interest. Episodes were predictable and gave me a disney/westernized entertainment feel. When I start feeling like I'm watching western tripe, I walk away. I've had a film as lit class so I know all the tricks and stories they like to rehash over and over.
All female cast animes are ones where the main cast and much of the supporting are all female. Harems still have the main protagonist as a male and usually have male cast members mixed in, if only just to be antagonists or supporting roles. Usually one serves as the jerk or really perverted one to make the protagonist look better. Bodacious Space Pirates, Symphogear, and Last Exile: Silver Wing would be all female casts. Now I originally wasn't opposed to this. But taking those 3 series...I can give you the clear problem with all of them.
Simply, they're all the same story. Even if different in characters and structure, its all the same. These type animes tend to have girls dealing with war and its always the same story. "Lets love, not fight, then get in maid outfits and look cute for each other." Then when you have a character which acts more realistic, they suddenly consider her the greatest evil in the world. Last Exile has Dyan. While the main cast is spouting utter idealistic nonsense all the time, she goes and kills one of the antagonists. The next scene, she is seen as the villain. When that moment hit, I practically cheered for her to just get fed up and off the rest of the cast. She was the only true to herself in the series.
Bodacious Space Pirates started brilliantly, then it just went to moe hell. Everyone in cosplay, everyone as maids, forget realism and make ships which resist inertia. The show which built up and made you think they'd actually do some space pirating, turns into a parade through monotony as the cast just goes from trope to trope till the end. Lets not fight, lets love and put on pirate performances because we've got a warship and we're bound by a contract to only attack as a show! Doing that means we're pirates! ZOMG!!! It is then you realize, why are we watching this show when all the awesome stuff is going on elsewhere in the universe?
Symphogear, again, awesome design and some good music. Forget that its more of a magical girl series as you watch it. Then the idealistic tripe comes in and everyone is hugging with yuri undertones. Bad guys do horrific evil stuff and wipe out lots of people then the protagonists are all...no lets be nice and kind and beat them with the power of music and love! I actually saw both seasons. S1 is better only cause S2 really lays it on heavy. How many times must they let a bad guy escape and endanger people before they finally shoot him? But they never do.
During the time these shows aired, there was over a dozen shows just like it. Some much, much, worse. It was a long 12 weeks till those seasons were over.
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I swear to god, every single anime that spouts idealistic shit gives the MCs a bajillion oppurtunities to MAN THE FUCK UP AND SHOOT HIM IN THE FACE! Follow in Kiritsugu's footsteps: Shoot your dog so you can get to the villain and kill him either in cold blood or with a fight, and if you fight, pull out all the stops, use all of your resources right from the beginning, and use every dirty trick you can think of. Either that, or save your dog and GTFO before he goes for you. Take your pick, because any other option is wrong.
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Yep, I've seen soo many shows where that happens. Again, usually all female cast shows. Its like women in the mangaka minds have to perpetually be kind and loving, opposed to fighting.
Man, someone get those mangakas onto a paintball field with real life women. In 5 mins they'll be keeled over, barfing their lunch out after being shot in the balls, and begging to be put out of their misery. Women who get serious are scary. They fight dirty and they pull no punches. My mom was a PE teacher for decades at a rough school. Fights would happen and such but when the fight was between girls, the male teachers booked it out of there. She used to tell me, one thing for certain when girls fought...there would be hair pulled, blood drawn, and scratches all over if lucky. If there is something that could be a weapon nearby, they'll use it without a second thought.
I am a bit disappointed with Cross Ange this season. Yes its an all girl cast anime, but I gave it a shot because it had a brutal synopsis and interesting mecha. There was no idealistic nut protagonist. She gets thrown in hell and gets a bunch of her allies killed before she finally starts to toughen up. Then she gets awesome. But even despite it all, she got a little wishy washy as the truth has been revealed. I had her pegged as siding with the dragons and wiping out humanity, but she's kinda hesitating when she should be rearing to go. I know its for plot and story development but after the huge build up Ange had to suddenly hesitate....sigh.
Still, a good show. If during those 2 years, there was multiple shows like it, I'd probably give more female cast shows a chance before dismissing. I'd like to see Fan Fam Fam look up at the corpse of an ally she just got killed then watch the ally's glass eye fall out of her socket in front of her. Put that in Last Exile...no more idealistic nonsense Fan Fam Fam...Dyan mode activate...someone's gonna bleed.
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Hmm... See, I've never seen girls fight, and when I 'fight', I follow the set rules. But when I fight? I'm the dirtiest cheater you'll ever meet, and I don't hesitate to beat the shit out of you while you're on the ground. There's a saying I like; Don't throw the first punch, but throw the second, and make sure it's the last.
Now, a little bit of idealism is A-OK at the beginning, because then they can lose it, and those scenes are usually pretty good. Hell, I'm OK with them keeping some of them, but learning that you can't always uphold them. To use the Fate series again, Shirou. He wants to save everyone, but he knows he can't.
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This talk makes me want to re-ignite my desire to be a mangaka (no one reads books... and those that do want to read porn).
Though in those days in the 90s and early 00s, it wasn't hard to do better than them. There are awesome series coming all the time now, with the modern writer's sensibilities.
Tropes still exist because the 10s is what I like to call the era of nostalgia, where cultural stagnation is starting to move towards that forecast cultural singularity. Purely because the consumption of culture (as well as spread) is so exponential.
As such with the overwhelming wealth of culture people look backwards to what they know. And ironic writing is the popular thing.
e.g. Game of thrones-a world of magic and fantasy... that lost the magic and fantasy... making it a pretentious period drama that is structured like a soap drama.
Its eastenders in a fantasy setting.
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Now, a little bit of idealism is A-OK at the beginning, because then they can lose it, and those scenes are usually pretty good. Hell, I'm OK with them keeping some of them, but learning that you can't always uphold them. To use the Fate series again, Shirou. He wants to save everyone, but he knows he can't.
Totally...some of the anime has the protagonist whether it be male or female, just holding onto ideals. I can dig strong characters which can do that, but when you have all characters doing it...it gets old. Finally watched Transformers Age of Extinction the other night. Went in with low expectations and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. The fact that Optimus finally gets off the high horse and just is like...ya know what humans, you're screwed. He regains some of his ideals but he finally won't sit by and let a bad guy kill a friend. His ideals finally shift to realizing, you can't save everyone, some people just have to be stopped.
One of the big reasons I hate Code Geass with a passion is not just because everyone dies and it gets to the point they kill characters just for the sake of killing them, but the fact that it takes forever for them to finally kill anyone who deserves it. To me its a waste of time. All the people who have the ability to stop the madness are too stuck up with ideals to do it. So they butcher a few more characters they spent forever building up.
Argued with Qwerty over some of this and Brick I still argue with about Eva. He's of the party that thinks Eva is one of the greatest animes ever made. I'm of the group which totally despise it. The fact the had to redo the ending multiple times and then finally redo the entire series just is a testament to how messed up it was. The protagonist is just a little whiny brat. Similar to Eureka 7 cept I was able to appreciate E7 after I saw it a 2nd time. The first time I watched it I almost stopped before it got good cause I just couldn't stand Renton's whining mixed with idealistic crap. Whine about killing over and over when he finally realizes hes killing people in mechs...cowboy to buck up you little brat...seriously! He's nuts for Eureka yet hes not willing to do what it takes to protect her.
Sigh, at least Ao you finally saw Renton grown up more. But that series had it's own issues.
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Shinji is, was, and forever will be the whinest bitch in all of fiction. NGE had the potential to be really good, but some of the shit they pulled... Also, that stupid conscious singularity thing was, well... stupid! No offense to Brick, of course.
Well, let me amend my previous statement. Shinji Ikari is, was, and forever will be the whiniest bitch in all of fiction, except here: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3886999/48/Shinji-and-Warhammer40k (https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3886999/48/Shinji-and-Warhammer40k)
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You've just gained +5000 Gilder rep points!
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Why? For insulting Shinji Ikari, knowing about Shinji and WH40k, giving an unbiased opinion on NGE without leaning to either extreme...?
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trying to think of a more annoying male protagonist... (usagi/serena from sailor moon definitely even worst).
(http://img1.ak.crunchyroll.com/i/spire2/02032008/9/7/a/8/97a86afaeb9260_full.jpg)
Oh wait... found him.
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I didn't actually mind him so much in the beginning. Like, Wave arc. So much POTENTIAL, SQUANDERED!
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I didn't actually mind him so much in the beginning. Like, Wave arc. So much POTENTIAL, SQUANDERED!
With evangelion there was a degree of unpredictability and the characters felt less artificial.
Naruto... it followed a very predictable formula.
Naruto brags about being hokage, sasuke is an emo, sakura is useless.
During an arc, bad guy appears, deus ex machina, training, main fight begins, exchange sob story, for some reason naruto wins and by "logic" naruto's idealogy and his CONSTANTLY MENTIONED BAD CHILDHOOD is the wooooooorse sob story of any character in the series because Naruto is the main character. Naruto wins because his sob story is soooooo much more tragic and it "drives" him to push harder than the bad guy.
Its this for over hundreds of freakin episodes.
Shinji is an annoying asshole, but his motivations are actually kinda understandable, even relatable (doesnt make him any less of a bitch tho-cannot emphaise that enough). Just think back to his background of abandonment, his development of a hedgehog complex, this useless cowardly kid being suddenly emotionally blackmailed into entering a life or death battle that not only for own survival but the whole of humanity.
This series is like putting a kid with a huge phobia of fire and forcing him to continually be stuck in a situation where he has to face fire or terrible things will happen to absolutely everything (iunno... the building will burn down and kill everyone inside). Shinji in that light is understandably a frustrating lil bitch. He has a fire extinguisher but he's too terrified to get close to the fire and use it.
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That's one of the things I liked about NGE, along with the Bio-Mechanical mecha and desperation. I've mentioned some things I didn't like, though here's another; Asuka. Rei was half decent, but Asuka was an absolute, stuck up, spoiled, arrogant BITCH, right to the end. She pisses me off so bad.
I know that Naruto has an absolutely horrible format, but in the beginning, before any of that set in, it was OK. Also, I like the universe, it's fun to play around with. And Naruto, if tweaked right, is one of my hands down favourite crossover characters.
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(http://widehdwalls.com/images/medium/a-asuka_langley_soryu-655754.jpg)
but... but my waifu... dat satisfying sexy times as you thottle her while you spread mayonaise all over her unconscious body.
Iunno man... Asuka is pretty much the real life example of what a tsundere would actually be. A much harsher, less obvious, highly conflicted human being than what anime portrays them.
She's that gorgeous girl you got friendzoned because she thinks she's in love with that older guy, but slowly she begins to like you and realise how despite how imperfect you are, you do appeal to her, and maybe this undaunted attraction is what love is. As opposed to this hormonal want she has with Kaji.
There's a real good reason essays are written about evangelions and analysed up the wazzo. While naruto is not.
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I've liked some episodes but ultimately I'm a Kakashi fan. Some of the fillers when they let another studio handle the story was also very good. The art style changed and it made Naruto fresh again. But overall the entire anime is 70% filler and flashbacks. Shippuden I'd say has been even more. They flashback or fill for everything and its freaken insane.
Another factor with Naruto is, he actually grows up and changes. Things affect him and he doesn't spout idealistic nonsense all the time. Probably part due to it being a battle anime. It allows the show to venture in directions which others shy away from.
Am happy with the ending tho. Naruto and Hinata is the pairing I predicted when they introed Hinata's character. Honestly could not stand Sakura. She's never useful in the original anime except in rare occasions and she acts like a groupie to Sasuke the rest of the time. Only in Shippuden does she finally start being less annoying and actually fights.
It became clear to me they were for sure going to go with Hinata back on the Pain arc. The only one to stand beside him in the horrific battle is Hinata. Outside of Kakashi scenes, that was probably my favorite of the series just because you get to see her character grow and take a stand. Showed a greater depth in Hinata's character. Much more than Sakura ever carried. Oh I was mad at the Ninja Storm team when they altered her lines in the remake of that scene for Ninja Storm 2.
Anyways, just watched this week's Cross Ange...I think I'll give female cast anime's a bit more lenience. I'll be wary but, what she just did this week and the intensity of the episode. True Dyan colors have come forward. Just a shame she got interrupted. Just hope they don't make the real foe too pretentious or OP so it drags on for weeks with semi filler episodes till a climatic battle. Again, I've seen other shows do that and it just annoys. They get to the conclusion fast, then load in filler episodes to pad out the series till the finale.
And..why Naruto > Shinji...simple. Naruto overcomes it and becomes something. Shinji just sits in pity parties all the time and never becomes anything. Then tries to kill Asuka.
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That last point right there Gilder, and the change bit; YES.
Also, I love Kakashi. Probably one of my favourite characters ever. I really like his dynamic with Guy, too. NaruHina is an OTP, for sure. I haven't actually read the ending yet; I got to the point where Sasuke says that he's going to murder all of the Kages (That was unexpected and yet totally in character.), and that's it. What happens?
And Ceres, agreed. She was just as broken as Rei and Shinji, but it really showed when she interacted with Kaji. I'm just glad he wasn't dumb enough to take the jailbait. It probably would've broken her even more.
But as it is, I would never, EVER consider her to be waifu material unless she smartened up and stopped being so bitchy. I'd almost say she needs to be knocked down a peg or two, but she'd probably just snap and try to kill you, or make specifically sure she destroyed your house next time she was fighting. She puts up the bitchy exterior to hide how delicate she is. Doesn't mean it doesn't piss me off. The one and only time I rooted for Asuka was when she was fighting the MP Evas.
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That last point right there Gilder, and the change bit; YES.
Also, I love Kakashi. Probably one of my favourite characters ever. I really like his dynamic with Guy, too. NaruHina is an OTP, for sure. I haven't actually read the ending yet; I got to the point where Sasuke says that he's going to murder all of the Kages (That was unexpected and yet totally in character.), and that's it. What happens?
lol I can just imagine it.
Sasuke: I have succeeded in killing all the Kages.
Sasuke: wait what? They elected new ones? FFS.
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That last point right there Gilder, and the change bit; YES.
Also, I love Kakashi. Probably one of my favourite characters ever. I really like his dynamic with Guy, too. NaruHina is an OTP, for sure. I haven't actually read the ending yet; I got to the point where Sasuke says that he's going to murder all of the Kages (That was unexpected and yet totally in character.), and that's it. What happens?
lol I can just imagine it.
Sasuke: I have succeeded in killing all the Kages.
Sasuke: wait what? They elected new ones? FFS.
No, they're all unconscious and totally powerless because of the Infinite Tsukiyomi. His plan is basically kill them all, and then unite the Elemental Nations under his rule, with a new philosphy. No more ninja, no more wars... it's Pein like, really.
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That last point right there Gilder, and the change bit; YES.
Also, I love Kakashi. Probably one of my favourite characters ever. I really like his dynamic with Guy, too. NaruHina is an OTP, for sure. I haven't actually read the ending yet; I got to the point where Sasuke says that he's going to murder all of the Kages (That was unexpected and yet totally in character.), and that's it. What happens?
lol I can just imagine it.
Sasuke: I have succeeded in killing all the Kages.
Sasuke: wait what? They elected new ones? FFS.
No, they're all unconscious and totally powerless because of the Infinite Tsukiyomi. His plan is basically kill them all, and then unite the Elemental Nations under his rule, with a new philosphy. No more ninja, no more wars... it's Pein like, really.
It's poor writing when a character thinks that just because a leader is dead that a regime is over. Especially one thats lasted generations.
In those moments I'd just wanna insert myself into the story pat the person on the should and go, "yeah. good luck with that"
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Actually I haven't read the manga. But the movie that just released spoiled it for everyone. Allegedly the manga skips ahead and you see Naru/Hina but you don't know how they hook up, the movie tells that story. It was actually spoiled beforehand cause someone released some of the concept art showing Naru/Hina's kids. Then everyone spoiled it after that when the movie details hit and the manga released. Had to have been the worst kept secret in anime. But I'm a little happy the writer did it. Usually the girls who never speak up, never win in anime. Course he spent a lot of time building her courage and it was nice to see. Hinata grew more in a vertical sense. Stronger character and became one who could stand beside Naruto. Whereas Sakura just grew in the horizontal. She sorta gives up on combat and becomes a medic but her character doesn't really change much. She becomes more of a behind the scenes character.
Heh...if I made an anime with all of my waifus in it, i'd probably bankrupt an animation studio with characters. Theres just soo many endearing ones. But I do know my top 5 would have Taneshima Popura from Working!! and Marina Wulfstan from Valkyria Chronicles.
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Indulge me while I list my Waifus for a moment.
Ruby Rose, RWBY
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2013/207/2/0/rwby___ruby_rose_with_scythe_by_o121do1-d6evq3g.png)
Satellizer el/L. (it changes) Bridget, Freezing
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11113/111130955/3303885-satellizer_el_bridget.jpg)
Mizore Shirayuki, Rosario + Vampire
(http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10600000/mizore-shy-mizore-shirayuki-fan-club-10614374-880-897.jpg)
Lilly Satou, Katawa Shoujo
(http://www.katawa-shoujo.com/res/char/char_lilly.png)
There are more, but these are a few of my favourites. I feel bad because Lilly's picture is so small...
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Talks of waifus is generally the line where I want to start separating myself from other anime fans >.>
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Talks of waifus is generally the line where I want to start separating myself from other anime fans >.>
Nah my line is when weaboos use the Katakana spelling of western words.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qgJ0Bfn124
seiba vs ransa.
Its SABER VS LANCER.
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Talks of waifus is generally the line where I want to start separating myself from other anime fans >.>
I don't mean 'waifu' as in this:
(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1569841/original.jpg)
I usually mean it as female anime characters I am particularly fond of.
pls don't hate me
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I see your Lily and I raise a...HANAKO!!
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130628063217/katawashoujo/images/b/b5/Hanako_in_her_bed_with_Hisao.png)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd9vJRSAhtw
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I see your Lily and I raise a...HANAKO!!
(http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130628063217/katawashoujo/images/b/b5/Hanako_in_her_bed_with_Hisao.png)
Oh I agree, I love Hanako almost as much as Lilly. She's just so adorable! Her bad ending doe...
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Yeah the Hanako bad ending...I did it to get full completion, but I hated myself for doing it...should never have to see her like this:
(http://shindeiie.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/katawashoujo161.jpg)
It should be a crime for making Hanako sad!!
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she so hot she burned?
So yeah... ghost in the shell live action movie.
Director is the dude that did snowwhite and the huntsman... and the main character is played by black widow... and unlikely to be called motoko.
Why can't hollywood do anything right? It's not that hard to do a decent ghost movie.... you've basically done it with the matrix.
Playing devil's advocate it might be the licencing fee. But that can't be right they throw so much money into comicbook movies.
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she so hot she burned?
Don't even go there. Either play Katawa Shoujo, or apologize.
Seriously, what she went through would've messed me up for life.
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she so hot she burned?
Play Katawa Shoujo and don't ask anymore dumb questions...you don't want to incur the wrath of Hanako fans.
Ghost in the Shell will suck because Hollywood is run by money, not by creative interest. They'll look at the original story, then use a few concepts but go completely off the deep end with the rest. Cut funding here and there and then end up with crap. Its how we got directors like Paul WS Anderson still working and not stung up by his thumbs somewhere for butchering Resident Evil.
Any Western take on Japan film will be terrible with few exceptions. We take the story, then twist it to what sells here. Which then gets twisted more by studios. They never keep the storyline in tact or the characters. When money rules their decisions, there is no concept of keeping a story true to it's original.
Course Japan does similar. If you've ever seen Heroman, you'll see one of the most unrealistic representations of US high school life. Its like they wanted to make a shounen show but the character age groups don't match. Kinda like there was two teams working on it. One who developed the characters, the other who developed story. Its a decent anime and a nice watch once you get past the little issues. Just gotta forget that these are supposed to be American characters. If you imagine it as a shounen show with that age group, you can stomach it.
But still, if that is their biggest offense, its pretty small in comparison to how terrible western film is.
Some animes, could be done in western live action and actually turn out not terrible. Most of them would be the ones not set in Japan. Attack on Titan, Valkyria, or probably just about any space series or fantasy show.
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Western Films aren't totally bad.
You ever heard of Star Wars? Maybe Star Trek?
...Thought just hit me. Does anyone remember Spider Riders?
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Both of those series, were made back before the 90s. After the 90s, western studios stopped taking the risks on new IP like they had before. Its why we have tons of reboots and rehashes. Heck Guardians of the Galaxy almost didn't get made because they were afraid it wouldn't make the money back. Now when new movies are discussed, they don't look at the story and concept and look at it being awesome, they look at money and demographics. But will Guardians finally change the industry back? Iffy. Marvel is going wild right now cause everything with their name on it has been doing well. They're willing to take some risks. But the core stories I don't expect to change much.
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What about Big Hero 6? Maybe even Frozen? (I personally think it was a good movie, and enjoyed it the first time or two around. Then it got old. Also last thing on this before we derail the thread)
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Frozen was horrific from a story standpoint. These guys go a bit extreme with it but many of the complaints are valid: http://youtu.be/HvwMtWkfkJ8
The original version they were going to do where Elsa goes evil actually would have been better.
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Frozen was horrific from a story standpoint. These guys go a bit extreme with it but many of the complaints are valid: http://youtu.be/HvwMtWkfkJ8
The original version they were going to do where Elsa goes evil actually would have been better.
I would've liked it better, too. The thing is, I never take a Disney movie seriously. I usually try to look at it from a child's point of view.
Also, when 'Let it Go' was composed, it completely changed the movie. COMPLETELY.
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I just did a Netflix on it to see what the fuss was but when it ended, I too thought a bunch of the things listed. Specifically regarding the guys in the movie. It was like they engineered them early on to fill the love interest roles for both girls then turned one evil and the other suddenly had eyes for the red head. I was like...come on, he's a kid who has made a living with ice...he's perfect for Elsa's character.
But yeah, I blame that song for ruining it. Before that song the movie seemed like it was going to a better place where Elsa goes evil. Some of the lyrics still hint at the movie we could have had. Just instead of changing things to bring it back into the original concept, they left it in and made it a confusing empowerment movie. Goes to show that when you are making a film, don't change direction halfway through production.
My favorite critique of the film tho is one where they confront the parents with the trolls. The trolls tell them what not to do with Elsa to help her manage her powers and the parents reply the opposite (lock her up, keep her lonely/etc). It really exposed the core problem of the film. The parents are evil jerks. Course it also made me wish it had happened and turned Elsa evil. Even if for a time before turning good again.
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The whole power of love thing might've worked. I think I'd like your version much better.
I keep hearing things about an anime called 'Another', but I have no idea what all the fuss is about. Do you know?
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The whole power of love thing might've worked. I think I'd like your version much better.
I keep hearing things about an anime called 'Another', but I have no idea what all the fuss is about. Do you know?
Watch it.
It's good.
High School kids die.
In horrible ways.
Totes worth.
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Like, Elfen Lied horrible?
Or AoT horrible?
Edit: Oh god it's like Higurashi isn't it
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It would have, turn Elsa into Vader. If she can create sentient snow monsters, she could create an army to attack the nobles. The prince guy keeps his personality and you have a Helms Deep defense going on as the snow army attacks. Then the sister and ice boy go to convince Elsa to stop. They fail the first time but it sets up a situation where he gets even more determined. The sister too joins the battle to stand against Elsa. In the end, Elsa Vader succumbs to love somehow, remembers the goodness in her. Turns away from destroying everything. Nobles that pushed her to this fate get killed or exiled. Roll traditional happy Disney ending.
Think Elfen Lied made me disinterested in horror/gore anime. Every episode went out of it's way to brutally kill or maim people. Everyone being crazy and brutalized themselves too. Reminded me of Shinji cept this would be the homicidal version of Shinji with boobs who kills and dismembers his father and Rei/Asuka. Then turns into a torso with fake arms/legs held together by powers...uggg.
Teraformars last season I watched probably a handful of episodes before I finally just had it. They'd brutally kill off characters in each episode, heavily censored. Some scenes they'd have a white box covering the entire screen it was so bad. Then they'd show flashbacks giving you reasons to care for them. I was just...no...no...I'm not going to watch a meatgrinder grind meat then be made to care for said meat after the fact.
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Like, Elfen Lied horrible?
Or AoT horrible?
Edit: Oh god it's like Higurashi isn't it
so how bout that pigeon blood?
and I've play katawa... I'm dead inside and analyse a story for its technique. I do not get feels.
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she so hot she burned?
Play Katawa Shoujo and don't ask anymore dumb questions...you don't want to incur the wrath of Hanako fans.
Ghost in the Shell will suck because Hollywood is run by money, not by creative interest. They'll look at the original story, then use a few concepts but go completely off the deep end with the rest. Cut funding here and there and then end up with crap. Its how we got directors like Paul WS Anderson still working and not stung up by his thumbs somewhere for butchering Resident Evil.
Any Western take on Japan film will be terrible with few exceptions. We take the story, then twist it to what sells here. Which then gets twisted more by studios. They never keep the storyline in tact or the characters. When money rules their decisions, there is no concept of keeping a story true to it's original.
Course Japan does similar. If you've ever seen Heroman, you'll see one of the most unrealistic representations of US high school life. Its like they wanted to make a shounen show but the character age groups don't match. Kinda like there was two teams working on it. One who developed the characters, the other who developed story. Its a decent anime and a nice watch once you get past the little issues. Just gotta forget that these are supposed to be American characters. If you imagine it as a shounen show with that age group, you can stomach it.
But still, if that is their biggest offense, its pretty small in comparison to how terrible western film is.
Some animes, could be done in western live action and actually turn out not terrible. Most of them would be the ones not set in Japan. Attack on Titan, Valkyria, or probably just about any space series or fantasy show.
This is heavily imply the Japanese film industry is any better.
Japanese actors are kinda bad or rather very pantomime at acting. Plus some of their adaptations...
As for frozen... you know the song let it go? It doesn't even fit the damn story. You say it changed the story... but that change clearly didn't change enough to actually fit the damn song that was the whole point of the change.
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It's not anime, but have you guys ever heard of Generator REX?
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It's not anime, but have you guys ever heard of Generator REX?
that sounds so 90s.
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Of course it didn't fit the movie. Its because the girl who sang it, changed the movie. The original movie was to have Elsa be more evil. Trouble was when she sang it, she did it so well in this form that they decided to change the movie to fit the stupid song.
Yeah many of the Japanese actors I've seen have been bad. Course I blame their love for bishounen protagonists partly for this. When that went wild, every film had to have one in it and they were almost always terrible. Course they'd then write the script specifically for them so they'd use the same tropes that women there demanded.
I'm not saying they are better, but that their story telling is generally more open to new ideas. But yes they do rehash a lot too and everyone copies everyone there. Here we'd be up in arms but there copying it is more as paying homage it seems. They also can get away with it better than in the west because they always seem to try to improve on an idea. Just, some don't improve in the right way and the story tanks. Which is why you have tripe series like MM. One show before it went with the S&M protagonist, they copied and turned it completely cliched and tropey. I'm still mad that show made it here and got raves. Course no one else had seen the original cause they don't watch streams like I do and see each anime long before it releases in the states.
Generator REX...hmmm...I may have. Name sounds vaguely familiar. I used to be up nightly watching just about every show I could for awhile. You'd be amazed how many animes you can watch in a short amount of time :D.
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Seinfeld is my favourite anime
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I had a bigger synopsis typed, but shit happened, sooooo
The world has been infected by the 'nanovirus', about which almost nothing is known beyond the fact that victims have a random chance of going batshit insane and transforming into powerful, rampaging monsters with almost no warning at all. One person is unique, however, because he is a a teenager mysteriously connected with the explosion that infected the world. He is very much infected, but he can control it, warping his body into badass implements of destruction at will. He's working for the government as a top-secret anti-virus weapon.
It's pretty cool, you guys can check it out. Rex actually has routine issues controlling his powers, and he doesn't get some sort of powerup through sheer determination.
What is your guys's view on Tsunderes?
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Like, Elfen Lied horrible?
Or AoT horrible?
Edit: Oh god it's like Higurashi isn't it
Higurashi is probably the closest to it. Same general mystery behind the story too.
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Tsunderes...some are decent, others just get annoying. One trope regarding them that I get tired of is they most often make it a short small breasted girl as the tsundere. Toradora really gave this image a boost unfortunately.
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Tsunderes...some are decent, others just get annoying. One trope regarding them that I get tired of is they most often make it a short small breasted girl as the tsundere. Toradora really gave this image a boost unfortunately.
Probably because it was really fuckin' good.
But the good Tsunderes? Someone made a point to me.
It's not so much a personality, as it is a disorder. They compulsively hurt everyone around them, even if their heart is full of nothing but love to give.
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Tsunderes...some are decent, others just get annoying. One trope regarding them that I get tired of is they most often make it a short small breasted girl as the tsundere. Toradora really gave this image a boost unfortunately.
No... toradora didn't do anything but follow a trend. What made the popularity of Tsundere was Asuka from evangelion. Claimed to actually be the first official vanilla tsundere (unless of course you count hentai rapey times).
With Evangelion's theme around the hedgehog complex. It created the foundations of the archetype.
Or rather, like all things. It created a interesting characters and was bastardised and dumbed down into a few key traits that created the archetype.
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Yeah Eva did, I'm just saying the modern stereotype was influenced heavily by Toradora. Yes Toradora is one of my favorites. Just when you can instantly peg the tsundere character before they even say much of anything, its getting a bit ridiculous. Its like..oh look, super short girl with small top...tsundere in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Think my favorite since is Inami in Working!! Shes a tall girl and so traumatized into hating men due to her father that she beats up just about all she sees. So you have the man hater mixed with tsundere. Then give her super strength thanks to her dad keeping weights in her school bags growing up. Ahh...I want a season 3 of that show so bad. Sadly, her character started a push towards promoting similar man hater characters. All of which were vastly inferior to Inami.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/d69aa3804168b9ecf4a697ddb22d2870/tumblr_mrlupjrFb11rbmuyxo1_500.gif)
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http://www.animefreak.tv/watch/junketsu-no-maria-online
oh dear god! so gud... so much waifu.
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Ok so Kantai Collection is the browser game which has taken Japan by storm right? Right?
I really don't get why this exists when Arpeggio of Blue Steel was much better and way more interesting. The girls don't even turn into the ships they represent, they just do cutesy things with giant cannons and backpacks strapped to their butts.
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Ok so Kantai Collection is the browser game which has taken Japan by storm right? Right?
I really don't get why this exists when Arpeggio of Blue Steel was much better and way more interesting. The girls don't even turn into the ships they represent, they just do cutesy things with giant cannons and backpacks strapped to their butts.
Because they aren't ships- they are specifically NOT actual ships, they're actual girls; Cyborgs, if you will.
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Meh, I want Blue Steel back. Seeing the Sentoku class submarines in action, even if as transforming girls, was worth it. Dumb military in WWII had to scuttle them. I'd like to go back and slug whoever decided not to keep those around. First and last subs that could launch and retrieve planes. They would have been priceless to museums. <Insert Indy Voice "THAT BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!"
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Why not both? It wouldn't really work, though, because in-canon they are actually ship-GIRLS. Blue Steel does sound really cool though. But the Sentoku sound rather impractical, especially to put in a museum. To launch aircraft the sub had to have been fucking huge.
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Blue Steel uses an anime CG style. Its not as great as regular drawn ones but its unique. Uses some common tropes but overall not terrible.
It was ingenious. The whole design was based around being able to sneak close to the US west coast, launch the plane, then hit strategic targets before any defenses could be raised. The plane was basically a sea plane with pontoons that could be collapsed. It was bigger indeed. The conning tower was a mini container and launch system for the plane.
One issue tho, it took time for them to reload the plane and dive again. The whole design was in early stages but absolutely brilliant.
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Blue Steel uses an anime CG style. Its not as great as regular drawn ones but its unique. Uses some common tropes but overall not terrible.
It was ingenious. The whole design was based around being able to sneak close to the US west coast, launch the plane, then hit strategic targets before any defenses could be raised. The plane was basically a sea plane with pontoons that could be collapsed. It was bigger indeed. The conning tower was a mini container and launch system for the plane.
One issue tho, it took time for them to reload the plane and dive again. The whole design was in early stages but absolutely brilliant.
Even better, have a submersible aircraft! Just launch them underwater and have them come out that way!
I miss warships. They were badass.
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Alright discussion time. Aldnoah Zero 2 is coming out in probably a day or so. What do you all expect? (Spoilers ahead)
One, they did nothing to set up any new protagonist and as far as the story goes, the one guy is becoming the villain. His love is dead and he helped her killer do it. Then he offs the protagonist. But the question is, will the protagonists stay dead? I think what we'll see is a time gap followed by a revelation that either she was brought back via Aldnoah or he was. The war will be brought to Martian soil. The Earth forces need Aldnoah to be able to stand against Mars, that is clear. The entire first season seems to set him up as being the pilot to take the fight to Mars. So, even with him getting killed at the end, he's too important to die. Her character too is too important. She could go into a coma or something. Earth needs her survival cause without her alive, Aldnoah couldn't function for them. I can't see the story continuing without them surviving. Earth tech is too far behind and there is just no story without them to help mount a resistance.
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Alright discussion time. Aldnoah Zero 2 is coming out in probably a day or so. What do you all expect? (Spoilers ahead)
One, they did nothing to set up any new protagonist and as far as the story goes, the one guy is becoming the villain. His love is dead and he helped her killer do it. Then he offs the protagonist. But the question is, will the protagonists stay dead? I think what we'll see is a time gap followed by a revelation that either she was brought back via Aldnoah or he was. The war will be brought to Martian soil. The Earth forces need Aldnoah to be able to stand against Mars, that is clear. The entire first season seems to set him up as being the pilot to take the fight to Mars. So, even with him getting killed at the end, he's too important to die. Her character too is too important. She could go into a coma or something. Earth needs her survival cause without her alive, Aldnoah couldn't function for them. I can't see the story continuing without them surviving. Earth tech is too far behind and there is just no story without them to help mount a resistance.
Knowing Anime, they're not dead, for sure. I've never watched even the first season, but would you recommend it?
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Yes very much. Aldnoah Zero is fantastic. Its a mecha but it doesn't follow all the traditional tropes. You don't have the hero finding the godlike mech that can't be stopped nor kids with delusions that killing is bad/etc. People get killed in it and no one is really super safe. Kalafina does the opening song for it. If you recognize that name, you'll like it.
Opening to it: http://dai.ly/x267jhr
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Finally an anime topic I can get into!
Watched the whole series from the start, and must say I loved it. It was definitely a twist as far as tropes go (the stoic main protagonist was definitely unique), and overall enjoyed it quite a bit. Have even listened to the opening song over 200 times by now.
Definitely pumped for Aldnoah.Zero 2, finally a good anime to watch again (got bored of Log Horizon II and SAO II mid-way through the season, hasn't been much else to entertain me since).
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Finally an anime topic I can get into!
Watched the whole series from the start, and must say I loved it. It was definitely a twist as far as tropes go (the stoic main protagonist was definitely unique), and overall enjoyed it quite a bit. Have even listened to the opening song over 200 times by now.
Definitely pumped for Aldnoah.Zero 2, finally a good anime to watch again (got bored of Log Horizon II and SAO II mid-way through the season, hasn't been much else to entertain me since).
Kek... implying SAO 2 was good at any point.
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Finally an anime topic I can get into!
Watched the whole series from the start, and must say I loved it. It was definitely a twist as far as tropes go (the stoic main protagonist was definitely unique), and overall enjoyed it quite a bit. Have even listened to the opening song over 200 times by now.
Definitely pumped for Aldnoah.Zero 2, finally a good anime to watch again (got bored of Log Horizon II and SAO II mid-way through the season, hasn't been much else to entertain me since).
Kek... implying SAO 2 was good at any point.
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It was a good concept, and if they'd not gone in the direction they did, (full harem) it might have been amazing. Really wish that guy he meets at the very beginning would have teamed up with him right away...
Because of the fact it went full harem, SAOII, or as some people like to call it, GGO, is pretty much a pile of steaming Powder Monkey dung.
Also, I'll be sure to watch AZ, then.
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I enjoyed SAOII just cause its SAO. The 2nd half kinda slowed a bit. But the series pretty much went too much into harem area, I agree on that. It didn't need to. It was clear Asuna would be the only one for Kirito from the start. But if you think the series is bad, play SAO Hollow Fragment. The game is literally cheap harem cliche scene after another. You can increase relationships with all the girls but Asuna is still the only one you marry. To increase them, you basically flirt then sleep in the same bed, not sex, for a night. Its silly and kinda lame but its neat the see the rest of Aincrad.
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SAO is baby's first .hack meets Fate stay night for idiots.
If only they just stopped at the first novel...
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I actually consider Log Horizon a good blend of Sword Art Online and .hack//SIGN. It mixes greatly and everything, I just thought that in the 2nd season they slowed down the action wayyyy too much, which is kind of why I eventually just dropped it.
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Haven't watched Log Horizon, but I have seen .hack.
Speaking of games, No Game No Life?
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Haven't watched Log Horizon, but I have seen .hack.
Speaking of games, No Game No Life?
My clan's Mantra is "In the land of twilight under the moon, we dance for the idiots."
A direct reference to .hack awesome sound track.
No game no life is the classic genre-smartest guy in the room. However I don't like how this series handles it where obvious rules have been established but then they add some stupid deus ex machina cheat to win every single time. Pretty art though. And "smart" if you don't think too much about it.
I mean in the many scenarios I would have written moves that were within the rules that were established, and I'm just kinda disappointed that it's not by the rules. Oh look a game of chess! Nope... lets add extra rules that completely ignores the rules of chess, making the whole chess aesthetic inconsequential. And through these rules lets bullshit a deus ex machina all the way into victory.
bugger everything! A new season of durarra!
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Log Horizon is less death game is real and more MMO game is real. I appreciate it because it gets aspects of the MMO guild life more accurately. SAO pegs things as being an MMO but they aren't. SAO, ALO, GGO are not MMOs, they're just multiplayer RPG games with some MMO features.
I enjoy SAO because it actually has a degree of emotion in it. Sure it brings in some tropey harem elements later, but it delivers on the characters much better than other shows. I still argue Sachi is alive somewhere. When Kirito passes out fighting blue eyes, you see Sachi's face calling to him, not Asuna's. It doesn't appear to be a past flashback. What I do wish tho is they didn't take the show as fast as they did. Aincrad to me should have been a full 24 episodes where you really get to see Kirito's struggles play out. Even if its not in the novels, they should have done filler and really fleshed out the entire Aincrad time period. Made the final confrontation with Heathcliff much more meaningful as well as his relationship with Asuna.
The other arcs...are kinda short anyways. Its not like you can pad those out. ALO gives some of the emotion from Aincrad but brings in the romance cousin aspect a little heavily. GGO is all about Sinon and her character is fantastic but, I still don't see why everyone said the GGO arc was the best of them all. I'm still on Aincrad. Mother's Rosario arc should have been a very powerful story however it just felt like the excalibur interlude arc set up some real awesome questline and gave you the hopes that Klein wouldn't remain a background character, then you get Rosario dropped on you. You think..."THESE TEARS!! WHY?!! I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BATTLE MORE GIANTS AND SEE KLEIN GET A DIGITAL GODDESS GIRLFRIEND!!!"
So I still say Aincrad is the best arc. The writer's strength really shines the most before he gets into relying on harem tropes. He's not a good harem writer, but at least the characters are better than 90% of the harem shows out there. I can stomach it for this reason. Course I've seen a lot of harems, soo many are just lame to the point you can sense the money grab they are attempting. I dunno if it was his original intent to turn it into a harem or if publishers inserted the idea.
The guy also wrote Accel World with one of the worst protagonists in anime aside from Shinji. The show isn't terrible but the fact that the protagonist is a little fat kid who always questions his worth in every scene, makes me wonder if publishers did force some changes to SAO. Accel World's MC doesn't sell. It is everything that you don't want a MC to be in Japan. Short, weak, fat...those are always background characters. Accel World of course won't get a 2nd season. No way they will take a risk with that MC again.
No Game No Life is good, its interesting, but its just a fanservice show most of the time. Worth a watch but I just found it lukewarm. I'd certainly watch a season 2 tho. Just because some of the story did have some uniqueness to it.
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Here's a truth bomb for you.
The writer of SAO is the equivalent of Japanese Stephanie Meyers. It shows in his lazy writing and very contrived characterisation with main protagonists being sue as all hell. The guy's a fanfiction writer that got a break, just as Stephanie Meyer's Twilight was a failed Anne Rice fanfiction.
As a producer of the show you must stay loyal to the tripe that is SAO because the cult fandom would throw a shit fit if their feces was changed in any other way to what the author intended.
When interviewed the author himself said his work on SAO was kinda terrible. Politely copping it all to "Oh I was so young." This dominantly talking about the 2nd arc with the incest during GGO, but still.
In terms of authors, the biggest fan I am of is Ken Akamatsu. Why do I favour a famous plagiarist and amateur? Because whenever he attempts something he visibly get so much better as he goes along.
Early AI ga tomaranai was obviously a copy of weird science with rom com series like Ah my goddess.
Later AI ga tomaranai (Or AI love you when localised by tokyopop), it was very obviously the prototype for Love Hina.
Love hina started off as the most generic Harem series ever that stole the concept from a manga called Maison Ikkoku (look it up). And pretty much aped the hell out of it.
But by the end of Love hina, he'd made it his own and had gotten to the level that people copied HIM when it came to the modern Harem series. His anime won a reward and a good while he was the king of Harems.
Harry potter came out and playing on his strengths, he founded Negima and tried to use the love hina formula on a harry potter setting.
He very quickly realised his mistake and focused more on shounen righting and crafted his story in a weird hybrid of dragonball and dragonball z.
By the end of it Ken Akamatsu, made Negima one of the most hype and highly noted examples of a magical BOY series. That FAIRY TAIL plagiarised with various magical lore.
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You can't judge a show as incest based on western laws. Remember Japan doesn't consider cousins to be of the same blood. You'll often see this done in anime and often times I see the character as the one most closest to the MC. This can also be a childhood friend character. Often times the one most closest is the one that doesn't win in the end as they are deemed sister or friend material more than romantic.
Here we see those things and get turned off on a show. I used to till I looked into it and realized I was thinking with western ideas, not realizing there is a cultural difference at play. Then I was able to understand and grasp the concept.
Yeah I'm a big fan of Akamatsu sensei. I wouldn't have gotten into anime without Love Hina. Was actually the first show which sparked it all. Honestly tho, Love Hina is a harem only in setting. Its actually a love triangle. Same as Tenchi Muyo. Which to me, works a lot better. Most harems nowadays have one heroine and a bunch of background girls and they spend a dozen plus episodes on filler to finally get to the choice which was so obvious from the start. Then you have harem like Infinite Stratos where they just keep the MC a moron and have all the girls be heroine. Personally I really despise that. Those shows tend to really drag out scenes and put the MC in moments where you ask the question,"Ok the MC must be dead or gay because no man alive would miss a hint that huge."
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You can't judge a show as incest based on western laws. Remember Japan doesn't consider cousins to be of the same blood. You'll often see this done in anime and often times I see the character as the one most closest to the MC. This can also be a childhood friend character. Often times the one most closest is the one that doesn't win in the end as they are deemed sister or friend material more than romantic.
Here we see those things and get turned off on a show. I used to till I looked into it and realized I was thinking with western ideas, not realizing there is a cultural difference at play. Then I was able to understand and grasp the concept.
Yeah I'm a big fan of Akamatsu sensei. I wouldn't have gotten into anime without Love Hina. Was actually the first show which sparked it all. Honestly tho, Love Hina is a harem only in setting. Its actually a love triangle. Same as Tenchi Muyo. Which to me, works a lot better. Most harems nowadays have one heroine and a bunch of background girls and they spend a dozen plus episodes on filler to finally get to the choice which was so obvious from the start. Then you have harem like Infinite Stratos where they just keep the MC a moron and have all the girls be heroine. Personally I really despise that. Those shows tend to really drag out scenes and put the MC in moments where you ask the question,"Ok the MC must be dead or gay because no man alive would miss a hint that huge."
Gilder... the story arc was about Alfheim and Kirito's sister wanting his D. You make a point... but an entirely unrelated point. It's as incest as it gets even in Japan.
And no... love hina is an outright harem. All the female characters (except his aunt and grandma) are in love with him. And every skit is pretty much designed around flirting or teasing him, Naru gets jelly and calls Keitaro a perv and unjustifiably decks him into orbit.
do you happen to recall his attempt at a christmas anime/manga?
remember this scene?
http://youtu.be/lgZtQJbEh6U?t=5m28s
It may be fandub but its loyal to the original and the funimation dub.
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You want disturbing incest, remember they add a sister character to Love Hina later. That is downright blatant. Sugu in SAO is very toned down compared to her.
I basically said yes Love Hina is a harem but its not a pure harem. Its a love triangle harem. Even in the manga, which I have btw, only Naru and Mutsumi are ever the main girls. All because of the promise and Mutsumi comes forward first, acknowledging that promise. Naru was one of them too but she was too little to remember. None of the other girls were part of the promise so they aren't viable and their scenes are clearly filler. Only Shinobu holds any hope but even then, her character isn't strong enough to be in the triangle.
Tenchi Muyo is the same. Sure everyone loves Tenchi but it is clear throughout the whole series that it is a love triangle between Ayeka and Ryoko. Tenchi Muyo is also recognized in anime communities as a love triangle, not a harem. Even though it has harem elements.
Vandread...simple romcom with harem added. It is not a pure harem. Its clear from the start Dita is the only one who will fit but they tried to mix in a quad girl mix, then add a 5th later. Plus extras in the background. Harem yes, but not a pure harem. However, Vandread is better than most modern shows that call themselves harems.
Pure harems, all the girls have strong presence and you'll never figure out who is the lead girl till the end. There is no clear winner. There have been a few but its rare.
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Aldnoah Zero S2...
I FREAKEN CALLED IT!!! Inaho is back! Asselum is back! MUHAHAHAHA!! You think your cliffhanger was clever huh writers?! It was good, but BOOM!, saw through it!
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You want disturbing incest, remember they add a sister character to Love Hina later. That is downright blatant. Sugu in SAO is very toned down compared to her.
I basically said yes Love Hina is a harem but its not a pure harem. Its a love triangle harem. Even in the manga, which I have btw, only Naru and Mutsumi are ever the main girls. All because of the promise and Mutsumi comes forward first, acknowledging that promise. Naru was one of them too but she was too little to remember. None of the other girls were part of the promise so they aren't viable and their scenes are clearly filler. Only Shinobu holds any hope but even then, her character isn't strong enough to be in the triangle.
Tenchi Muyo is the same. Sure everyone loves Tenchi but it is clear throughout the whole series that it is a love triangle between Ayeka and Ryoko. Tenchi Muyo is also recognized in anime communities as a love triangle, not a harem. Even though it has harem elements.
Vandread...simple romcom with harem added. It is not a pure harem. Its clear from the start Dita is the only one who will fit but they tried to mix in a quad girl mix, then add a 5th later. Plus extras in the background. Harem yes, but not a pure harem. However, Vandread is better than most modern shows that call themselves harems.
Pure harems, all the girls have strong presence and you'll never figure out who is the lead girl till the end. There is no clear winner. There have been a few but its rare.
Those pure harems of yours are nearly all from visual novels. Those are not harems. You are really projecting an incorrect definition of harem series. The only requirement for a harem series is multiple girls being in love with one guy.
As for the siblings thing?
Kanoko is a step sister. If you want real incest read suki de suki de suki de or just watch the anime.
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By your definition just about every series is harem. Dammit, at least have something to differentiate between the steaming pile of bull crap harem and the decent harems.
Yeah she is. But not a huge difference between that and Sugu. Besides Kanako is a creepy perverted freak who frankly wasn't needed for the series or the story. She just was a ploy to get Naru to stop being a tsundere.
And VNs are where a lot of anime get their starts nowadays. Which is why they often have trouble is because the anime commits too strongly to one route and sacrifices the other characters. Hence the predictable crap harems where literally its just two characters with a bunch of background characters and the "harem" label slapped on.
The best pure harem anime is simply Amagami SS only because you get to see all the routes. All the girls get equal screentime. However, the same treatment can be done for others. The directors just have to not outright favor one character over the others from the start. Heck I love Clannad, but I can't label it a harem without an asterisk because the entire show favors Nagisa. All the other characters, are just background or gag characters. They are filler till the main story with Nagisa picks up again.
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By your definition just about every series is harem. Dammit, at least have something to differentiate between the steaming pile of bull crap harem and the decent harems.
Yeah she is. But not a huge difference between that and Sugu. Besides Kanako is a creepy perverted freak who frankly wasn't needed for the series or the story. She just was a ploy to get Naru to stop being a tsundere.
And VNs are where a lot of anime get their starts nowadays. Which is why they often have trouble is because the anime commits too strongly to one route and sacrifices the other characters. Hence the predictable crap harems where literally its just two characters with a bunch of background characters and the "harem" label slapped on.
The best pure harem anime is simply Amagami SS only because you get to see all the routes. All the girls get equal screentime. However, the same treatment can be done for others. The directors just have to not outright favor one character over the others from the start. Heck I love Clannad, but I can't label it a harem without an asterisk because the entire show favors Nagisa. All the other characters, are just background or gag characters. They are filler till the main story with Nagisa picks up again.
Not by my definition. By the dictionary definition.
Harem, hāremumono (ハーレムもの ?) (from harem), broadly, is an ambiguously-defined subgenre of anime and manga characterized by a protagonist surrounded, usually amorously, by three or more members of the opposing sex and/or love interests.
Yeah, wrong. Clannad every character either has an arc (even on specific routes) or have had past interest with the main character. It's still a harem.
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Aldnoah Zero S2...
I FREAKEN CALLED IT!!! Inaho is back! Asselum is back! MUHAHAHAHA!! You think your cliffhanger was clever huh writers?! It was good, but BOOM!, saw through it!
In response:
Yeah, I kind of thought that way too. It just wouldn't seem right to kill of the main protagonist at the end of the first series, nor the princess.
Will admit though, was a good cliffhanger. Now I'm curious what awaits with the completely unforeseen blindside of Slaine switching sides and aiding Saazbaum. I sense a lot of tension in the future about that, just saying.
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
First season=full season of shinji ikari with no eva. very ignorable.
second season=shinji ikari in the eva and cannot leave and slowly going bat shizzle.
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
First season=full season of shinji ikari with no eva. very ignorable.
second season=shinji ikari in the eva and cannot leave and slowly going bat shizzle.
>TFW implying Shinji wasn't Bat Shizzle to begin with
I'm honestly unsure whether that sounds interesting, or like a pile of powder monkey dung...
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
First season=full season of shinji ikari with no eva. very ignorable.
second season=shinji ikari in the eva and cannot leave and slowly going bat shizzle.
>TFW implying Shinji wasn't Bat Shizzle to begin with
I'm honestly unsure whether that sounds interesting, or like a pile of powder monkey dung...
Well season 2 of durara or on at the same time. So Just ignore it for by far superior animu.
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
First season=full season of shinji ikari with no eva. very ignorable.
second season=shinji ikari in the eva and cannot leave and slowly going bat shizzle.
>TFW implying Shinji wasn't Bat Shizzle to begin with
I'm honestly unsure whether that sounds interesting, or like a pile of powder monkey dung...
Well season 2 of durara or on at the same time. So Just ignore it for by far superior animu.
I might give it a shot. I gave SAO a shot, and it wasn't blasphemously horrible, so this can't be too bad.
From what I can determine, though, Vampire + Freaky Tentacles Sprouting From Back = Ghoul.
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so anime logic of the day.
Kirio from Magical battle festa.
I must find out if I am strong enough to protect the girl I love. So I'm going to beat up the girl I love to see if I have the power to protect her.
*slow clap*
Anyway, I'm hearing tons of buzz over Tokyo Ghoul... any good?
First season=full season of shinji ikari with no eva. very ignorable.
second season=shinji ikari in the eva and cannot leave and slowly going bat shizzle.
>TFW implying Shinji wasn't Bat Shizzle to begin with
I'm honestly unsure whether that sounds interesting, or like a pile of powder monkey dung...
Well season 2 of durara or on at the same time. So Just ignore it for by far superior animu.
I might give it a shot. I gave SAO a shot, and it wasn't blasphemously horrible, so this can't be too bad.
From what I can determine, though, Vampire + Freaky Tentacles Sprouting From Back = Ghoul.
Barring the vampire part (think more like yoma from claymore), pretty much but much dumber. As in Japanese writers don't understand a thing called logistics.
A race of creatures that survives ONLY on human flesh? Huuuge logistical problem there and that ruins an important part of story telling. Suspension of disbelief.
I mean I can believe in vampires as a creature because they drink blood. Blood from anything but ideally human as they were themselves human, and the act of drinking blood is regaining life essence to continue living. Where in some vampire lore to drink blood is to drink the soul (hence when a person is bitten they become vampires which are soulless beings).
etc. etc.
A good creature holds great logistics in how it exists in the given universe and thus an audience can suspend the disbelief in their existence.
Classic ghouls were first vampire underlings. Like mid way zombies. In modernised lore they're mutated cannibals (think gollum) made from generations of inbreeding and consumption of human flesh.
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Whatever you do don't watch Rosario + Vampire...never have I seen a more generic, predictable, boring show in all my life. I know people love it and rave about it. I gave it quite a few episodes before I just refused to watch anymore. It is an amalgamation of every trope, cliche, and rehashed anime storytelling line that has ever been made.
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Gundam: G no Reconguista....
I'm not going to say it was the worst anime ever made cause Shiwase no Pan happened...but now that it is over...the last episode has aired...it was...I just...WHAT THE #^@#^@#@# HELL $%@#%@#^@#^ CRAP #^#^#$^#$^ JUST HAPPENED #@^!%!@^&@#^@#$%?!!! Good guys are bad guys, bad guys are good guys, ally goes from friend to homicidal psycho chick in literally no time...Ameria allies firing on their own ships...venus people firing on everyone...Gundam suddenly loses Batman's utility belt, becomes weak...guy hit by plane wing...isnt chopped in half...WHY ISNT ANYONE USING THE FREAKEN AWESOME SPACE WEAPONS ON EARTH?! NUKE THEM FROM @%!@^%!@%!! @%@#^#@^ ORBIT YOU STUPID #@%!@%#@%^ IDIOTS!!! Lasers...battery pack empty...still fighting as if not...end scene everyone peaceful...one girl knocked up...climbing Mt Fuji for no reason...travel the world?...YOU JUST GOT BACK FROM SPACE YOU @%@#^@# PIECE OF @!!@$@!$!@ PROTAGONIST@$#!@$!@$!@. PLEASE LET THE SUN JUST GO RED GIANT IN THE STORY AND WIPE OUT THE INNER SOLAR SYSTEM AND @$%!@%@!#^#@ $#&$#&$#&#$ BELLRI!!!!
*Pant*
I said it earlier and now I'll confirm it with this...
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Whatever you do don't watch Rosario + Vampire...never have I seen a more generic, predictable, boring show in all my life. I know people love it and rave about it. I gave it quite a few episodes before I just refused to watch anymore. It is an amalgamation of every trope, cliche, and rehashed anime storytelling line that has ever been made.
I just watch the porn. so much r34 for that. almost rivals love ru.
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I don't watch a lot of anime, but I just finished Parasyte: The Maxim. It was tense and cool and I loved it. To cool off, though, I watched all of Donyatsu! in one sitting.
Parasyte gets an 8/10 but Donyatsu! easily gets a 10/10
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Last season has some of the worst endings ever. Parasyte was probably one of the only few that actually stayed good and ended good. Saekano was another. Cross Ange, I'd give partial credit to. Garo...so-so. Course Garo everyone was pissed at what happened with Lara. You see her in the closing scenes like she'd be a prominent character but then they did the opposite.
Besides Reconguista...Absolute Duo, Fafner, Dog Days 3, and a few others were just horrible. Some of them started good but just fell apart at the end. The most disappointing of all was Yoru no Yatterman. It was such a brilliant show where the good guys became bad guys and the bad guys had to fight the good guys to save everyone. But the ending...ugg. Between reusing animation shots to just poor writing. It was like the entire series had fantastic writers but then the ending they ran out of money and hired some hick off the street then figured no one would notice them reusing animation sequences 2-3x in a row.
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I actually finished watching the Aldnoah.Zero series the other day (unless they are planning to make a third season). The ending was, actually decent. I was expecting something a bit more dramatic or something to pull at the heartstrings a bit, but I didn't really feel it.
Granted, I've seen better endings to good animes, but this was one sub-par. Would I watch it again? Probably yeah, I already have all the episodes downloaded. :P
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Yeah ANZ's ending was just kinda...blah. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't super great either. It was a bit of a shame because ANZ continually performed and brought fantastic episodes one after another during it's 2 season run.
Heh, in a way ANZ's ending is just like it's protagonist. Some emotions but generally just moving on with poker face.
Well in other news, Eva creator is co-directing the next Godzilla. Half the world now sheds tears of joy, the other half cries in terror as we can only imagine the horrific trauma he's going to inflict upon the characters. All I can say is...we better not have to sit through a movie where Godzilla is throwing a pity party every 5 mins. Cause then for once I'll root for the humans to win, not Godzilla.
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Yeah ANZ's ending was just kinda...blah. It wasn't terrible but it wasn't super great either. It was a bit of a shame because ANZ continually performed and brought fantastic episodes one after another during it's 2 season run.
Heh, in a way ANZ's ending is just like it's protagonist. Some emotions but generally just moving on with poker face.
Perfect summary of the ending. But yeah, I kind of felt that the episodes in their entirety were great, just the ending was decent. Overall though, still a good series.
Say, does anyone watch Log Horizon still? I gave up around episode 6 of the second season (not enough action was happening so I dropped it), but I am curious to hear if the action increased shortly afterwards. If it's still carrying the same tone, I might just avoid all of Season 2 altogether.
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They do 2 major raids during it. Think you might have dropped right before they did the first raid.
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They do 2 major raids during it. Think you might have dropped right before they did the first raid.
Ah, I might get back into it then. :P
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I just watched a bunch of Squid Girl, which I found amusing.
Then I watched the first episode of Food Wars, which was pretty hilarious.
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Does anyone know of a manga about the Shield Hero?
I was pretty far in, but forgot the name.
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I just watched a bunch of Squid Girl, which I found amusing.
Then I watched the first episode of Food Wars, which was pretty hilarious.
SHOKUGEKI!!! :D
Bento is a decent food related one too. Although, only the first half of it. After 6 episodes the story seems to go off canter a bit with new character additions which detract more than add to the series.
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Gundam: Iron Blood Orphans...holy crap this literally makes up entirely for G Reconguista. Specially when the protagonist pulls out a pistol and offs two people who screwed them over. No hesitation or considering "violence is bad" crap, just gun out, pop pop, who's next? Guy charges, pop pop, anyone else want to join them? Ha!
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Anime is for children
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Anime is for children
orly (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0T0z-xMp908)
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Anime is for children
Ghost in The Shell
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baited :)
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rydr baiting tactics
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rydr baiting tactics
Oh noe, they are on to us!
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knew it was bait
that's why orly
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Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans made the news:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-11-09/scene-in-gundam-iron-blooded-orphans-causes-viewer-complaints/.95182
Seriously, best Gundam I've ever seen. Course I haven't seen most of the originals all the way. But man, child soldiers acting like soldiers and just not even hesitating...so refreshing.
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What the hell am I even looking at? It looks like a lobster-human hybrid's eye is exploding out of its head.
... It's weiwd an' scawwy.
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Watch One Punch Man and find out :D.
https://youtu.be/atxYe-nOa9w
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BERSERK IS GOING TO CONTINUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
more materials for dark souls to ste- I mean pay homage to.
also... you know... for kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pogaEuxkeY
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If only they made an MMO with these skill sets: https://youtu.be/vMwfLCQyDr0
lol
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Have seen the shill anime coming out for sega?
They release one every year now and they are all terrible unapologetic shill-fests.
Currently there is an anime phantasy star online 2...
Plot? A random guy got recruited into the student council. And everyone on it plays pso2 to demonstrate "teamwork and ability", so the main guy has to become a mmo addict and get the mad lootz on council run raids to earn... his place at the student council he never wanted to be in in the first place (and prolly to get with the hot student prez).
Don't talk about the universe, nop the ragnarok online made that mistake. Instead lets write a terrible school romance story where mmo addiction gets you mad puss and good grades and prolly a job at sega (oh...).
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Yeah I'm pretty disappointed. Instead of actually making an anime about the PSO universe they did that...
Was kinda looking somewhat forward to PSO too. I'm not a fan but I've played the PSP ports and other than the worst heroine in the history of female characters in game being the female lead of PSP2, the story and setup was interesting enough.
Yeah I saw the Ragnarok online anime. Half the show was decent, the rest...ugg. Painful to watch. Specially after they did the class change and the characters didn't behave the same way anymore.
I guess I might watch PSO2 through as it seems like they may be trying to cross the real world with MMO at some point judging from that one girl's character. But theres other great shows to see.
Erased is really showing up to be a must see. Murder mystery/time travel one. Then Snow White of the Red Hair is back. GATE is back too. Heavy Object is holding steady although they are getting into a 60s Batman groove with the battles. Garo....well nvm that one, been a rather big disappointment when compared to the original.
Pandora was the only show so far I dropped after about 10 minutes. All female cast fan service genre just needs to die already. Norn has been tenuous since it started. I'm okay with the shoujo manga vibe it gives off but the characters and story are very subpar. It seems like it is building to something, just taking it's time.
Norn is kind of the opposite of Utawaremono. That show has the characters and a rich world but it just doesn't do anything with them. Took them about 13 episodes to get to any semblance of progressing the story which it teases at in the first two episodes and then just sits on with cameos from the original series filling in the dead air.
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GATE is awesome. One of the more interesting premises I've seen, but other than buffing mages immensely, throwing endless Fire Drakes at the JSDF, or closing the titular Gate, the only real threats I see are from the outside, namely the USSR and America, as they've already shown that they're willing to kill JSDF personnel to get their hands on the Elf and Demigoddess.
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The thing that interests me the most about GATE is the series of shenanigans happening at the imperial palace between the children of the emperor.
Ib4 trying to dogfight a dragon with a F4E Phantom II
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ZOMG who else saw Grimgar tonight?! I kinda felt what happened tonight was coming because the series tries to be a bit more realistic about the "trapped in a gameworld" genre but still...oooo got good.
I'm interested in the military tech the JSDF brought into GATE. Really F4s? I'd have thought they'd have taken something a bit less fuel hungry. Sure its a good multirole fighter/bomber but still, Japan right now has 154 F-15s. Heck even the F-2s would have been better. Perhaps this speaks of the government's willingness to really invest in the special region. Sending old worn out F-4s. Course their only major air combat would be dragon fighting. The rest is a lot of recon flying. Course considering that, even more...take something a bit more fuel efficient. Unless they are that confident in their supply line staying open. Makes me wonder what would happen if the GATE did shut? If it's been open for awhile, there has to be some sort of power source or something keeping it open. How long till that ends? Maybe we'll see some of this happen later.
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the twist on grimgar was obvious.
okay... putting pointless emphasis on this character in a plotwise pointless scene. Japanese writing just doesn't get that obvious traits like that makes the story so easy to predict.
The tone of and premise of the series is good, but I honestly can't put it up as anything more than something that is better than the meh that is out there. Sadly no better alternatives.
At least with sword art you could poke fun of it for simply being all around awful. Puts in ridiculous plot devices that you can't observe with a straight face.
Grimgar though hasn't quite gotten that dumb yet, but the development is slow, plot progression is slow and the recent episode was inevitable. It shouldn't have taken 4 episodes.
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Yeah my gundam senses were tingling all over that character. I do like that they went exactly where I was hoping they would in showing how the Gobs finally got fed up with being farmed and decided to go hunt the adventurers.
Meh I still love SAO. It isn't perfect but I can easily rewatch the series more than others. Music score has a lot to do with that. Although I do enjoy the characters, when they aren't harem anime troping super much. Don't play the SAO Vita games if you hate harem tropes...oh its literally 25 levels of Aincrad with nothing but them.
Log Horizon I like for it's representation of MMO endgame players and the fact it actually gives a pretty good translation of endgame play to anime. SAO doesn't do this well at all. Log Horizon is more like out current MMOs so there is something for all types of players from tanks to healers. SAO is like an MMO if it was made for just dps players. It tries to go beyond that in Alfheim but its still a dpser's dream MMO. Rotate players and share damage till the boss collapses/etc.
I really want to see Grimgar go somewhere but I dunno if it will. It's not as slow as Utawaremono, which btw just finally explained the backstory it was sitting on for over a dozen episodes. The change last episode in Grimgar I hope will be the trigger that will get the others moving. They were on a very casual farming pace and now with that happening I hope it will finally really open up the characters and get them thinking more seriously. The ending shows the other group too and I think it also hints at another character joining the scrub party. So hopefully this will be good. They need a healer no matter what. If the author followed traditional MMO healer classes, there is still a lot of options.
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I don't mind harem games so long as there's an actual H-ending as the reward.
And the harem genres are fine so long as it plays with it.
e.g. how ouran clearly shows that every guy is in love with the main character, but doesn't make it a horridly obvious glomp fest. Or how schools days ends with the main character getting done in for simply saying yes everytime. Or how the world god only knows actually teaches new weebs each trait with each arc.
SAO... is trash fiction at its trashiest (practically .hack fanfiction). The main guy is a Gary Stu, wins without ever truly struggling, his harem exists simply because of main character pheromones and its popularity is because of its high action and production value while being not as smart as .hack as to not challenge viewers with the arduous task of thinking.
Grimgar doesn't do this. But if its going to step up it better step up big. It did the good first step, kill the gary stu and martyr him. It's wasted two episodes on nothing otherwise.
Now going by plot formula, the revenge arc should be next. They get in over their heads because these characters are the dumb noob rpg players trope. However in some anime this arc is skipped in favour of a time skip where they have trained to become better (seriously I learned every lazy trick in writing through anime). But generally speaking this series thus far doesn't have a true conflict yet. Like an outright goal for the plot to aim for. And that is poor time wasting. It needs to show the big world reveal soon.
In no game no life. The premise was established from day 1. They were going to take over the world and beat god and thus went ahead for it.
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Opinions on best shows of this season so far?
Personally;
Tier 1: Phantom World, Dagashi Kashi, KonoSuba,
Tier 2: Erased, Grimgar, Dimension W,
Tier 3: Shoujo-tachi, Four Rhythm,
I don't think there is anything I've disliked, some shows have had a bad episode or 2, but as a whole - it's been a brilliant season for me.
What are your opinions?
Also, I'd like to leave this here in case there are any other HB users (basically, a better MAL):
https://hummingbird.me/users/kane_vanner
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What do you people think about the so famed One Punch Man?
Is it really overrated? Why is it?
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It would have made a nice OVA series, since it's a single joke I don't feel it needed a whole series.. but whatever, I just wish people didn't make such a fuss over it.
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What do you people think about the so famed One Punch Man?
Is it really overrated? Why is it?
the anime studio didn't get the joke of the series.
When Saitama destroys something it shouldn't be epic. It should be underwhelming. Because thats the joke. He just does a simple punch and things explode into pieces with barely any effort or flair.
Instead its made into a superman punch. Looks great but ruins the joke.
On other news though I've noticed anime are using a new format because ending songs for the longest times have been skipped.
So instead of having a preview after the ending song, the conclusive portion of the episode becomes a stinger and then the next episode preview plays. Interesting idea. Still doesn't change the fact that ending songs are rarely ever any good.
Grimgar update. Series is still moving at a snails pace. If you just watch every two episodes, you get a fairly well paced series.
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Cant say im an avid anime watcher but i do enjoy good shows wether animated or not so here we go:
First anime: Naruto
Favourite anime of all time: Clannad After Story
Favourite anime this season: Ajin
Favourite anime last season: hehe cant remember if i watched anything last season maybe SNAFU?
Anime you secretly enjoy(ed): Weird question but the 30 year old virgin was actually kind of fun later on
Most hated antagonist: Can not say, I generally do not hate the bad guys
Most loved protagonist: Light from deathnote
Favourite relationship: Clannad again :P
Waifu: clannad?
Over-rated anime: Naruto, Evangelion, Code Geass, Gintama, Monster ( I am probably stepping on a lot of toes here lol)
Under-rated anime: Hellsing
Personal anime fact: I do not really enjoy romance movies/shows so its weird that clannad is my favorite.
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Well one show I gave up on this season. Norn.
Got about 9 episodes in and I couldn't take it anymore. Everyone is traumatized, everyone is clueless, characters are extremely predictable, and it goes from trope to trope to the point I just root for the bad guys. Some episodes were also just so painfully dry.
Konosuba was a high point. Glad it's getting a second season. Was a nice spoof of MMOs. Grimgar, even in the slow episodes, still very much enjoy it. Utawaremono finally got decent after it got over it's pointless harem storyline...which sadly was most of the entire series. But that show is really not living up to it's potential. It could have been so much better.
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lol Helsing underrated lol...
its like saying trigun is unheard of.