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#AmmotudeAdjustment - GREASED ammunition proposals

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TinyPixelBlock:

--- Quote from: Atruejedi on January 20, 2017, 02:48:25 pm ---Greased Ammo Proposals

GREASED AMMO _______________
    Damage _____
    Clip Size _____
    Rate of Fire _____
    Projectile Speed _____
    Rotation Speed _____
    Jitter _____
    Current Stats
    -20%
    +20%
    +60%
    -20%
    -15%
    N/A
    Proposed Stats Option 1
    -20%
    +20%
    +60%
    -20%
    -15%
    +30%
   


--- End quote ---

I like the idea of adding significant jitter (and thus spread) to the gun. It should feel like a madman spitting haphazardly at his foes, as opposed to the current reliable stream of bullets. Option 2's reduced arming time only accommodates Hades, and I agree with the above that Greased should become less of a multipurpose solve-all ammo in future updates.

Option 3 is a no because slow bullets is simply the theoretical antithesis to the feel of a faster firing gun. It'd ruin the 'personality' of the Gatling too much.

Mirwen:
I vote for
--- Quote ---GREASED AMMO _______________
    Damage _____
    Clip Size _____
    Rate of Fire _____
    Projectile Speed _____
    Rotation Speed _____
    Jitter _____
    Proposed Stats Option 2
    -20%
    +20%
    +60%
    -30%
    -15%
    +20%
   

--- End quote ---

I really like the idea of Greased becoming more a short range Shotgun ammo choice.

MightyKeb:

--- Quote from: Mirwen on January 20, 2017, 05:25:40 pm ---I vote for
--- Quote ---GREASED AMMO _______________
    Damage _____
    Clip Size _____
    Rate of Fire _____
    Projectile Speed _____
    Rotation Speed _____
    Jitter _____
    Proposed Stats Option 2
    -20%
    +20%
    +60%
    -30%
    -15%
    +20%
   

--- End quote ---

I really like the idea of Greased becoming more a short range Shotgun ammo choice.

--- End quote ---

I don't mind this either. But what's the reward for getting this close? Same as before? And then you give arming time weapons even less arming time on the best arming-reducing ammo type in the game? I'm not so sure. Greased might be great but I really don't think the rewards are starting to match up to the risks past this point.

Atruejedi:

--- Quote from: MightyKeb on January 21, 2017, 04:29:48 am ---I don't mind this either. But what's the reward for getting this close? Same as before?
--- End quote ---

Yup, same as before. My problem with Greased is it is jammed in a gun and never unloaded. I want engineers to have to CHOOSE when to use Greased and Normal. Normal should not be taboo.


--- Quote ---And then you give arming time weapons even less arming time on the best arming-reducing ammo type in the game? I'm not so sure. Greased might be great but I really don't think the rewards are starting to match up to the risks past this point.

--- End quote ---

I agree, this is scary. I just want jitter. Simple.

BlackenedPies:
Do you think the lower arm range is a problem on lumberjack or light flak? A complaint was that greased hades is too OP and increased jitter wouldn't effect it. Increasing hades arm by 20m leaves its arm range the same as current greased. Is there another solution to address greased hades?

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