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Arturo Sanchez:
AND MADE IT THE FOCUS OF THE DAMN GAME.

Was just spit balling about the new tourney and pretty much reached the consensus that the usual people will participate and a few clueless noobs will join, get crushed and leave the game.

So thoughts of Junior divisions and minileagues were thrown out to make the special little flowers feel special. Plus with a noob league, you'll get outsiders looking in going... pffft I can totally beat these guys. And the scene would grow as it attracts the right people with the right attitude to actually play.

And as this new generation of try hards begin appreciating the senior league players, you garner interest in the meta of the game (so more people shouting at Eric to stop screwing things up).


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an open SCS lobby (still private lobby). No team registry. Just join and play and get comments on the gameplay and builds to actually learn to bloody play. I'm noticing alot of new players wanting to get better and join the comp scene but with no in because of lack of an established team.

Guagadu:

--- Quote from: Arturo Sanchez on November 07, 2016, 08:24:05 pm ---an open SCS lobby (still private lobby). No team registry. Just join and play and get comments on the gameplay and builds to actually learn to bloody play. I'm noticing alot of new players wanting to get better and join the comp scene but with no in because of lack of an established team.

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There was an event kind of like this earlier this year, with Back to Basics!!, hosted by KitKatKitty. No one ever really signed up, and it only happened maybe 2 or 3 times. If enough interest is shown, I'm sure we could get a similar event going.

Arturo Sanchez:

--- Quote from: Guagadu on November 07, 2016, 08:59:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: Arturo Sanchez on November 07, 2016, 08:24:05 pm ---an open SCS lobby (still private lobby). No team registry. Just join and play and get comments on the gameplay and builds to actually learn to bloody play. I'm noticing alot of new players wanting to get better and join the comp scene but with no in because of lack of an established team.

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There was an event kind of like this earlier this year, with Back to Basics!!, hosted by KitKatKitty. No one ever really signed up, and it only happened maybe 2 or 3 times. If enough interest is shown, I'm sure we could get a similar event going.

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majority of the noob playerbase don't even know how to use most of the UI or memorised the damned buttons because they're too dumb to do the tutorial.

But yes the format the event gave is the issue. People need to sign up and as I said on the above. No noob likes to think, they just want the answers and win. You need to have an open invite like the other events where people join. For this to work though you need to give organisers a kick from lobby option to get rid of trolls. Oterwise we suffer the issue that pub teachers like me suffer.


Heres an email I just sent to muse.


--- Quote ---So I noticed your brass tourney in the works.

Personally I think its a bit too soon to be having one since the comp is pretty much in tatters.

The first thing you need to do is increase focus on the comp scene in the first place. To simply expect randoms to simply sign up to fill in the gap many vets left behind is optimistic.

Its under discussion in the forums right now (again).

But here are some simple things to implement.

Competitive ranking system.
Separate Competitive and Pub play match maker.
Graduate achievement (an achievement that unlocks only upon reaching elite status-so thats 43 if i recall) with a focus on extra titles and coupons than exp for players to teach proper mid lvl play. Its pretty much exactly the same as novice but instead for teaching graduates which is lvl 8-29.

Graduate achievement increases the number of vets. Increases the number of vet games. Increases the comp scene.
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Solidusbucket:
I actually see what you mean.

Maybe do the open invite thing via global and whatever.

Then, create a bracket and provide a link? If only links worked in chat. Then I could see it being a viable option.

The people would get the invite, join up, be placed into a crew, and that crew would remain a team and be given a name. Then, they would be entered into the bracket. It could be round robin format where a "team" is one ship and the four teams play three matches and then a winner is declared.

It would also be good to create new teams by introducing randoms to eachother in a competitive format.

GurasOguras:
I don't wanna come out as a salty or grumpy man, but there is no such thing as "low level competitive". You can either be competitive player or not. At the very beginning I sucked as bad as everyone else and now I cringe every time I look back at recording of my first SCS piloting experience. If you want to be competitive, then just play and git gud. It's as simple as that.

To prove it just look at my clan: I was ALONE at the beginning. I reached out to everyone I knew at that time and recruited everyone I could. Within few weeks we already got second place on blood&brass. So stop whining, because IT IS POSSIBLE.
Here is the solution:

--- Quote from: Skrimskraw on January 18, 2016, 11:20:27 am ---as someone who ran a succesfull competitive Clan I can give you some advice on what you need to do.

if all 4 of you are invested and ready to be competitive, then get ingame and play as much as you can and learn.

Find people ingame who you like playing with, invite them and eventually create a second ship.

when you have 8 people contact the other active Clans and Schedule practice vs them, take the beating and learn from it. Discuss with eachother what needs to change in order for you to be better.

Sign up for SCS, dont expect to win, but use it as practice.

make friends with other Clans, and you personally with other Clan leaders, their advice will help you a lot.

Expect your players to stop playing or disappear, when this happen: keep your friendship, but replace them on the team and move forward, it happens.

then 2-3 months from now you will be a solid team.

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Use tournaments like SCS to take beating and learn from your mistakes. Starcraft II tip box, for example encourages you to look back at your replays and see where did you mess up. SCS VOD are the same here.

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