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Daft Loon:
The horizontal speed was a serious problem for any attempt at Junker vs Mobula, can't beat it at long range, can't get to short range because it can reverse almost as fast as you go forwards (all while shooting your engines and keeping its hidden).

Byron Cavendish:

--- Quote from: Atruejedi on September 28, 2016, 05:33:34 pm ---Yes, against all logic and reason, all of the advice given on how to properly and rationally balance the Mobula is continually rejected out of hand because insane vertical mobility makes the Mobula "unique"... well, fuck that, move that "unique" aspect to the Spire, where it makes sense from a gameplay, lore, and aesthetic set of reasons.

Whoever is in charge of balance suffers from oppositional defiance disorder.

--- End quote ---

we all know who that is...

Dementio:
A nerf to vertical mobility against Mobula to bring it a little bit closer to the other ships would be kinda alright, but what really keeps the ship in the engagements are top speed and its horizontal accerleration. Fish trying to circle a Mobula? Oh what is that, its horizontal acceleration matches the Goldfish'? Why, don't mind if I Stamina Kerosene and turn right around to shoot it into its side, annhilating its 400 armor, keeping the hull engineer away from the engines, snipe the engines with no effort from that range and finish of the kill on that stationary Fish!

Flying up and down is nice and all, but it doesn't keep guns aimed at what is actually close. You may lose gun arcs against the Mobula, but the Mobula also loses gun arcs against you. Just predict the predictable hydrogen and then proceed to outmanouver it on the horizontal plane or if it didn't pay attention and is in front of its ally, proceed to casually fly past it, focus firing its ally while it is still trying to turn around.

Being able to move all 5 of its guns back into arc on the horizontal plane against even the fastest ships in the game was the real problem. The same went for the old Metamidion that had enough horizontal and turning acceleration to Gatling and Mortar literally everything, regardless of their speed and health.

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