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Arturo Sanchez:
I definitely suggested to muse that novice pilots shouldnt be allowed to play cp...
and definitely not crazy king.

Its just constantly embarrassing when they play and fly their precious noob galleon... and even if they did have a ship that can move... they dont know to how actually use that kindergarten education to seek out points. I mean they can barely play death match...

however... pilots at about lvl 10+ has much more competence and showing the beginnings of tactical thinking. A lvl 10 pilot understands why they lost a cp. A novice pilot does not.



Lets face it. If I'm using novice pilots to grind point captures (and cp wins) because i know I'm basically gonna get the points unopposed.... there's definitely a flaw in the system.

The Mann:

--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on June 06, 2015, 08:43:34 pm ---I definitely suggested to muse that novice pilots shouldnt be allowed to play cp...
and definitely not crazy king.

Its just constantly embarrassing when they play and fly their precious noob galleon... and even if they did have a ship that can move... they dont know to how actually use that kindergarten education to seek out points. I mean they can barely play death match...

however... pilots at about lvl 10+ has much more competence and showing the beginnings of tactical thinking. A lvl 10 pilot understands why they lost a cp. A novice pilot does not.



Lets face it. If I'm using novice pilots to grind point captures (and cp wins) because i know I'm basically gonna get the points unopposed.... there's definitely a flaw in the system.

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I don't think banning them is the answer, perhaps a "Small King" (2v2 crazy king) for novices may be good so that they can practice in smaller number.

Apart from this, its nice to see new players (albeit Newbies) playing in big games. I normally try to help them by telling them to read the objectives under the map. that way, they have a slight understanding.

On the other hand, I was on a newbies ship on King of the Flayed Hills the other day with a friend. We both tried to advise the captain but they constantly ignored us and treated the game as a Death Match. This lack of understanding may be the cause of confusion.

Dementio:
Weren't people in novice matches limited to only Battle on the Dunes and Fight over Firnfeld, DM style?

I think novices should be able to play King of the Hill/Capture Point as it introduces a mechanic which so many inexperienced players don't seem to know anything of. Once they havethat down, they can actually be somewhat helpful in crazy king, even on the scale of 4v4.

A definite problem of 4v4 is the lack of variety. Red Spulcher is basically Battle on the Dunes and only rarely does anybody try to sneak up on somebody on either of those two maps. I like the idea of Firnfeld 4v4 where the spawns are split in two on the north and 2 on the south, or something, so the battles at least don't start in the middle. People might not find each other though.

Kamoba:
Novice matches allow 2v2 on dunes and fjords DM, and 3v3 DM Dunes, Fjords and Water Hazard.
No CP no CK.

The Mann:

--- Quote from: Kamoba on June 07, 2015, 10:30:43 am ---Novice matches allow 2v2 on dunes and fjords DM, and 3v3 DM Dunes, Fjords and Water Hazard.
No CP no CK.

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This, may therefore be the problem

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