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Shukketsushi:
@Ofiach

I think that you're missing the main point here on the topic of fireteams and that is: Words mean things. "Fireteam" refers to a very specific organization and tactic. Just because a squad splits in two doesn't make them two fireteams. Just because one guy in a group of four has a SAW doesn't make them a fireteam.

It's important to note that "SAW" doesn't just refer to the M249.

I don't think that anyone is saying that, after decades of combat, these people haven't figured out how to mobilize as fireteams. They certainly didn't start out in them, though, and your examples are irrelevant to that discussion.

As for the actual topic of the thread, I've got a few ideas that I want to formulate better before I post them. Perhaps after work.

Charon:
Hey, you got it, Tim. No hard feelings on this end.

On the airship side of things, I think you'd definitely see smaller elements progressing against these things, because they've got a pretty permanent enfilade advantage going for them. It's always going to be easy to hit the ground troops, so long as you can see them, and they're not in cover. Depending on the prevalent weapons types you're going to see a difference in dispersion from 15 meters to however many it takes to escape that kill/cas radius and still maintain those connecting files.

What really bites is that the ground guys can't just crouch and take it until the thing goes away due to fuel constraints. Even our choppers have a semi-limited time on station, although they can start a rotation to assist in TICs. Not sure what kind of fuel these airships take, I've heard diesel, but something tells me they could stick around for a good minute if they were so inclined.

Ofiach:
Even in my original post on this topic I said it probably wouldn't have been termed a "fireteam."

I was pointing out how human military groups even when their smallest group is 100 men strong have the natural tendency to fragment even more to get things done.

All this because I used the term "fireteam" loosely in a discussion of a fictional military group is a bit insane.

Also I'm just going to point out different organizations use different squad and fireteam tactics. SEAL's, S.A.S., Rangers, and VBSS to name the few groups I have worked with.

@ Lord Dick Tim that's the basic gist of what I'm trying to say, these guys are veterans of decades of war. They have grown up knowing they would be at war and because of this have developed tactics that will minimize casualties. It isn't too much of a leap in reasoning to say they would have come up with a "fireteam"like concept to maximize effectiveness and limit casualties.

I also think that this military would have different weapons for different jobs, maybe your average new recruit is only issued the finnish mk25 or maybe even a single shot only weapon so he didn't waste ammunition. Maybe the proven veterans are given  better weapons and gear. That's just something for you to think about and get the brain juices flowing. Or maybe they only have the one weapon because that's all they can produce.

Charon:
Message removed per original posters request.

The Churrosaur:
Children please...

This thread is about how infantry in the GOI world have developed squad (okay "small group" to avoid confusion with whatever the proper military definition is) based combat tactics utilizing evasion and movement over brute force of numbers- which I think is rather probable considering the inefficient nature of what would equate to WWI trench warfare especially in our near-apocalyptic scenario where resources, manpower included, would grow increasingly scarce- I don't think minute squabbles over textbook definitions of squad vs. fireteam, or our service records/ lack thereof are relevant.

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