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Arturo Sanchez:

--- Quote from: MightyKeb on February 26, 2015, 08:49:56 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 08:38:24 am ---
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on February 26, 2015, 08:24:04 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 08:19:46 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 07:57:31 am ---Say good bye, to carried pub matches ;)

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Oh Yay, now my winning in crazy king with a scrub team goes from me v enemy team to gg why bother?

Thats dumb.

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oh no, a team based game is even more team based now! How dumb right?!

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Have fun trying to play this without that stacked crew form. Really narrow-minded if you think that line isn't seething in ignorance of practicality.

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If youre talking about the fact that its difficult to work with your allies because they dont listen even when you reach out to them (if you ever do) Thats a common problem in pubs and the enemy team has the same odds. And when you have foreign allies playing ck for the first time while the other team is collectively trying hard? Then they deserve it, not some level 40 dude flying a blenderfish soloimg his way to victory. If your team is bad you will lose and if you dont against a competent team then something is wrong with this game, period.

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They... deserve it...

that's the dumbest bollocks I ever heard. If 3 ships can't handle a single blender fish they can't expect to win. In any case, there must always be an option where a single ship can break the odds on pure skill (within moderation).

Because this is the kind of game it is. Skill. No stat boosts based on lvls. every one gets wat everyone has. everyone has access to what everyone else has.

It's the players that utilise it that should win out in the end. A single ship vs 3? Odds are pretty bad as is.


But to completely make it impossible to even put up a fight? That's called being dumb.

Kamoba:
But it is not impossible, just harder to do, the new mechanic I to encourage people to play together more, encourage people to learn its a team game.

Though there are points to the new system I disagree with, it's not the end of the world.
  8)

Arturo Sanchez:

--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:24:06 am ---But it is not impossible, just harder to do, the new mechanic I to encourage people to play together more, encourage people to learn its a team game.

Though there are points to the new system I disagree with, it's not the end of the world.
  8)

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THAT WAS WHAT CRAZY KING DID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I order people to scout points while i delayed enemy ships. I told them to hold a point while intercepted enemy ships and I scouted out enemy points. I told ppl to prove defenses on whether its fighting to cap a capture point.

None of that is viable anymore. Real teamwork is dead.  Its just a bunch of idiots butting heads now.

Kamoba:

--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 09:27:52 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 09:24:06 am ---But it is not impossible, just harder to do, the new mechanic I to encourage people to play together more, encourage people to learn its a team game.

Though there are points to the new system I disagree with, it's not the end of the world.
  8)

--- End quote ---

THAT WAS WHAT CRAZY KING DID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

I order people to scout points while i delayed enemy ships. I told them to hold a point while intercepted enemy ships and delayed them.

None of that is viable anymore. Real teamwork is dead.

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Actually that tactic is still entirely viable, as long as the ship holding the point can hold its own in a 1v1 while you and the third ship (if 3v3) can intercept the enemy well.

MightyKeb:

--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 09:20:09 am ---
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on February 26, 2015, 08:49:56 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 08:38:24 am ---
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on February 26, 2015, 08:24:04 am ---
--- Quote from: Maximillian Jazzhand on February 26, 2015, 08:19:46 am ---
--- Quote from: Kamoba on February 26, 2015, 07:57:31 am ---Say good bye, to carried pub matches ;)

--- End quote ---

Oh Yay, now my winning in crazy king with a scrub team goes from me v enemy team to gg why bother?

Thats dumb.

--- End quote ---

oh no, a team based game is even more team based now! How dumb right?!

--- End quote ---

Have fun trying to play this without that stacked crew form. Really narrow-minded if you think that line isn't seething in ignorance of practicality.

--- End quote ---
If youre talking about the fact that its difficult to work with your allies because they dont listen even when you reach out to them (if you ever do) Thats a common problem in pubs and the enemy team has the same odds. And when you have foreign allies playing ck for the first time while the other team is collectively trying hard? Then they deserve it, not some level 40 dude flying a blenderfish soloimg his way to victory. If your team is bad you will lose and if you dont against a competent team then something is wrong with this game, period.

--- End quote ---

They... deserve it...

that's the dumbest bollocks I ever heard. If 3 ships can't handle a single blender fish they can't expect to win. In any case, there must always be an option where a single ship can break the odds on pure skill (within moderation).

Because this is the kind of game it is. Skill. No stat boosts based on lvls. every one gets wat everyone has. everyone has access to what everyone else has.

It's the players that utilise it that should win out in the end. A single ship vs 3? Odds are pretty bad as is.


But to completely make it impossible to even put up a fight? That's called being dumb.

--- End quote ---

Notice when I said "competent players" at the end. If they cant get you in a 3v1 they probably should be playing novice matches. But skill is merely an aspect of this game,not the baseline point. I try my hardest to communicate with my allies all the time on the helm and I brief them on how they could contribute to our victory in the most efficient way possible. I may  have success in pubs as often as any vet after the valentines sale, but a non novice team will almost always have a chance against me. Problem is most of the time they dont seem to be communicating.

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