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Pavane:
I am a Novice player with 13 matches under my belt and a 100% completion rate.  In two of those games the Pilot quit in the middle of the game (I was an Engineer).  In my last game the entire crew of the other airship on our team quit.  Ordinarily I would not mind so much because AI crew will shoot and repair.  The problem is that by abandoning your teammates when you are the Pilot the helm of the ship is frozen at the last setting and your airship is a clay pigeon until someone takes over as Pilot.

In the two cases when it was our own airship I eventually noticed and left my station to take up the helm.  Our team lost both matches, but that is no big deal as winning is not as important as learning.  In the case where our allied airship surrendered our team actually won the match and I didn't even notice that they crew had abandoned the match until I saw the AAR that showed that they had surrendered.

What is the motive to quit mid-game?  Is it just bad sportsmanship or is there a perverse achievement incentive built into the game?  Of the 10 players that I have recently played with one had a 79% completion rate, one 68%, one 55%, one 83%, and the rest 100%.  That is not encouraging.  I am tempted to refuse to crew on an airship where the Pilot has less than a 90% completion rate, and state my reasons over the microphone.  Is that the appropriate way to apply peer pressure to encourage players to practice better sportsmanship?  I don't expect 100% completion because the unexpected can happen in real life while you are playing, but I believe that there is an AFK button that can be used so that you can return to the match if the emergency is taken care of quickly.

The first time this happened I only noticed because our airship had been shot down and after waiting 20 sec. for the Captain to choose a re-deployment spot I did it myself.  Sure enough, there was no Pilot so I took over.  In the second occurrence I was viewing the map periodically to check out our airship's relationship to the other airships and I noticed that even though we had repaired all of the damage we continued to move away from our ally until we hit the top of the map.

I would like to see a flashing red helm (wheel) icon when the Pilot has quit the game so that the remaining crew will notice and one can eventually take over.

Kamoba:
Firstly welcome to Guns of Icarus!
I will apologise you had such experiences so far, what you're experiencing is bad sportsmanship.. Some call it the "Call of duty effect" where people are joining with expectations of what many mainstream games promote as good gameplay, which the guns of Icarus experience is not, its all about team work and many new players come into the game not realising that, unfortunately.

Also the achievements which would encourage such behaviour are not until much later in the game, and normally most people who make it that far will avoid quitting the match for the sake of the achievement, this is not to say there are not people that do quit for the sake of achievements, but its rare.

If you think the pilot is not going to stay the whole match, jump ship find another match, its what the match competition rate it for! :)

To tell if your pilot is there or not, get into the habit of checking the chat box (It'll show which players connect and disconnect) also press the tab key to see the connection status of each ship! :)
Hope that helps!

Mean Machine:
Your best bet is to try to look for 20+ lvl players. At least pilot. Getting to level 10 is super fast and easy, so if you see lvl 10 players they are still very fresh and unfortunately a lot of them are too impatient to even try to learn what they are doing wrong or listen to any advice. This is not an fps game where you can just jump in, pick a weapon and start shooting.
If you don't have any friends to play with, then I'd suggest you look for a clan. This game is a nightmare to paly without a clan or friends. I bet everything I own there is not a single player that is high level and still play this game solo all the time. If they are not in clan, at least they have friends and play with them.
Good luck!

nanoduckling:
Sorry to hear about the bad experiences. Those are examples of bad sportsmanship and you are right to be grumpy. Sales are an especially bad time for this sort of thing, Kamoba has a theory that Muse market a bit too much to the FPS crowd, a theory I am slowly warming to.

Were I you I would do exactly as you suggest, don't fly with pilots with low match completion percentages. If you want to fly with a pilot who definitely wont quit feel free to add me.

One thing to realize is you are typically better off after these captains quit than you were before, as much as it doesn't necessarily seem that way. From the fact that you are concerned enough to post in the forums, care about sportsmanship and are sufficiently enquiring to try and reason out the problem I can tell you will make a better pilot than the rage quitters, even without the proper tools. Typically these fools ram too much (well they try to), point the boat the wrong way, don't listen to their crew and are generally idiots.

Simply flying the ship towards the enemy and pointing the guns will do more for your team than the rage quitter was ever likely to do.

HamsterIV:
There has been much discussion on this topic. In fact Muse added the "Completion Rate" stat because so many people wanted a way to punish repeat mid game leavers.

My own theory as to why people leave mid game is they are trying to learn what works through trial & error, and it is faster to quit and start a new game than play a loosing game to completion. Often a decision made in the lobby screen will determine if it is possible for your team to win. These mid game leavers are making bad decisions in the lobby and leaving the match when contact with the other team shows them how bad that decision was.

It is selfish to mess up a game for 7 other people just to experiment with new ship builds like this, and stupid to alienate oneself in an online community as small as this one. However the world is full of selfish stupid people.

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