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Level inflation and "noob problem"
Hoja Lateralus:
Achievements giving 'only' titles is a pretty good idea actually. Also the badges reward could be moved from leveling to achievements. Sadly I think both of those will seem too much of a change for Muse.
If we're at it - badges for matches played, please? For 500, 1000 and perhaps 1500/2000 matches?
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on April 05, 2015, 07:30:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on April 05, 2015, 07:04:19 am ---
For example yesterday I saw a guy with the exact levels as I (30-30-29), and he had... 500 matches played.
And he sucked.
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Schwalbe, you just counted your own levels.
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--- Quote from: MagKel on April 05, 2015, 09:13:22 am ---I have +400 matches and almost 2 months of game experience, I don't do achievements and play 60% pub 40% clan
In 3 months since my profile creation, I will be 40ish as Engineer. If I went for achievements I would be already there. This is not normal.
I played novice games with players that are still in my friend list and they have surpassed me, netting more than 30 levels on all three classes in less that 400 games.
I played gunner three times, on a hwacha once and carronate twice and yet I am level 7. This is not normal.
Ask me to fly anything other than my beloved junker and I will be mediocre at best. Yet, level 22 something. Still have to use some tools for the first time. Most of my experience is indirect (youtube and streaming) and I rely mostly on the skills of the crew rather than timing and positioning. Yet in another month I could be easily 40ish as a Pilot too. This is not normal.
I don't want to win levels easily, I don't even want levels if it must be this travesty.
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So much this!
[GLaDOS voice]: Burning people! He said what we're all thinking!
Another idea would be for achievements to unlock some cosmetics that aren't availible in any other way (that means also 'no shop'!) but GOIO lacks content even to reward people with something every level, not to speak about some other stuff. I mean, make like 9 extra costumes - 3 for every class for one 'step' of achievements (achievements of old lvl5, lvl10 and lvl15).
David Dire:
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on April 05, 2015, 07:30:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on April 05, 2015, 07:04:19 am ---
For example yesterday I saw a guy with the exact levels as I (30-30-29), and he had... 500 matches played.
And he sucked.
--- End quote ---
Schwalbe, you just counted your own levels.
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#REKT
Arturo Sanchez:
--- Quote from: Mr.Disaster on April 05, 2015, 07:56:50 pm ---Achievements giving 'only' titles is a pretty good idea actually. Also the badges reward could be moved from leveling to achievements. Sadly I think both of those will seem too much of a change for Muse.
If we're at it - badges for matches played, please? For 500, 1000 and perhaps 1500/2000 matches?
--- Quote from: MightyKeb on April 05, 2015, 07:30:44 am ---
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on April 05, 2015, 07:04:19 am ---
For example yesterday I saw a guy with the exact levels as I (30-30-29), and he had... 500 matches played.
And he sucked.
--- End quote ---
Schwalbe, you just counted your own levels.
--- End quote ---
--- Quote from: MagKel on April 05, 2015, 09:13:22 am ---I have +400 matches and almost 2 months of game experience, I don't do achievements and play 60% pub 40% clan
In 3 months since my profile creation, I will be 40ish as Engineer. If I went for achievements I would be already there. This is not normal.
I played novice games with players that are still in my friend list and they have surpassed me, netting more than 30 levels on all three classes in less that 400 games.
I played gunner three times, on a hwacha once and carronate twice and yet I am level 7. This is not normal.
Ask me to fly anything other than my beloved junker and I will be mediocre at best. Yet, level 22 something. Still have to use some tools for the first time. Most of my experience is indirect (youtube and streaming) and I rely mostly on the skills of the crew rather than timing and positioning. Yet in another month I could be easily 40ish as a Pilot too. This is not normal.
I don't want to win levels easily, I don't even want levels if it must be this travesty.
--- End quote ---
So much this!
[GLaDOS voice]: Burning people! He said what we're all thinking!
Another idea would be for achievements to unlock some cosmetics that aren't availible in any other way (that means also 'no shop'!) but GOIO lacks content even to reward people with something every level, not to speak about some other stuff. I mean, make like 9 extra costumes - 3 for every class for one 'step' of achievements (achievements of old lvl5, lvl10 and lvl15).
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well get to work workshop slave.
as for the title thing...
well they're willing to do some stupid drastic change like stamina (as well as the lvling system overhaul in the first place). they can afford to do this lvling system tweak.
if enough people are spamming them with the suggestion. they have to listen surely.
Hilary Briss:
During my observation of clan members, allies and public lobbies. Can honestly say "Achievements can & do make people selfish."
Achievements we were told do not help you level up faster...... This was mentioned in a Dev chat. Well they said that they do not help you level up that they gave a small Xp bouns. However when you get 10k per chieve V 1k per win what do you expect players to do. Achieves are still the Bonus DLC that most players want to XP up Can understand a player going after the Top Tier 1 Achieves when you have only those things to do.
"Achievements should be removed altogether when it comes to XP."
Better rewards can be had. These ideas have been mentioned above. Anything bar XP would be a good move for Achievements progression. Achievements are part of the journey a Reward in themselves Would you give 2 bonuses in a real time business? No it would cost too much in lost revenue. So why Gorge them on XP too? The Achievements are what keep many people playing in most games.
If that business model does not work in Guns then remove it.
Typed that damn word achievement out far too many time for my taste.
Just my thoughts
Crafeksterty:
What if achievements were hidden. But the names hint torwards how to get it? Or would that encourage exploring achievements more so than ever...
mhh...
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