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Guns of Icarus - League
Mean Machine:
Guys, I think you made your point. I agree weapon shouldn't be banned, but I'm not going to pretend that I care much, since I'm not a big fan of it. Anyway, they probably banned it because they were afraid of losing those three guys. I don't know if those guys complaining about it were from same team or not, but if they are not and their whole team agrees with them, then they could lose three teams and whole thing would fall apart on last day.
I'm not defending anyone here, even though it seems like, I just think that there is no need for beating the dead horse now, we can discuss this next week like they said, so they will have better feedback and more time to decide what to do for next week or season or whatever.
Sammy B. T.:
And what about being afraid of teams leaving because they don't like weapons banned arbitrarily because of a tiny minority of players complaining?
If no matter what someone is going to be angry with a decision that will be made, choose the consistent option not the arbitrary one.
Dementio:
I am ok with the decision made by the organizers. The Minotaur's place has not been decided yet and I would like to see some "normal" matches instead of the long drawn out ones created by long range + minotaur vs long range + minotaur, which I believe might not be an uncommon combination.
And nobody knows what Muse is up to, they can very well change a lot of stuff as time is continuing, so you would see an arguably unbalanced weapon that is potentially different in every match it is used in, which also creates differently balanced matches, which the teams themselves might use as a reason to explain their victory or loss, even though the reason of their victory or loss might have had entire different reasons.
I mean if you turn it around what good does the Minotaur do for the tournament when it is not banned? Nobody has had time to hardcore practise that gun and as far as I can tell it only makes matches much more longer than they should be. So why not ban it until had time to establish its place?
And also yes, the organisers should make their decisions less "last minute" like.
Skrimskraw:
--- Quote from: Dementio on February 28, 2015, 12:12:56 pm ---I am ok with the decision made by the organizers. The Minotaur's place has not been decided yet and I would like to see some "normal" matches instead of the long drawn out ones created by long range + minotaur vs long range + minotaur, which I believe might not be an uncommon combination.
And nobody knows what Muse is up to, they can very well change a lot of stuff as time is continuing, so you would see an arguably unbalanced weapon that is potentially different in every match it is used in, which also creates differently balanced matches, which the teams themselves might use as a reason to explain their victory or loss, even though the reason of their victory or loss might have had entire different reasons.
I mean if you turn it around what good does the Minotaur do for the tournament when it is not banned? Nobody has had time to hardcore practise that gun and as far as I can tell it only makes matches much more longer than they should be. So why not ban it until had time to establish its place?
And also yes, the organisers should make their decisions less "last minute" like.
--- End quote ---
but matches are 15 mins long, and these are not pub games?
nhbearit:
The thing is, before you ban weapons, all teams are equal. They have had the same amount of opportunities to practice with whatever weapon regardless of how new or established the weapon is. Once you ban a weapon, especially with little to no notice, you change the equation. Teams that spent time investigating the new weapon are at a disadvantage compared to teams that didn't spend time looking at it.
Mean Machine, you really should care. Not only should you care, but this should scare the living crap out of you. I, and every other competitive captain, have to budget time for eight people. We have to decide who practices what and to what extent. We have to have these things decided in advance. Competitive captains simply can't afford last second changes to rules. Sord has already put time and effort into figuring out the minotaur. We've invested in learning how to use it and how to get around it. The decision to ban the minotaur has effectively made that time a waste.
I never even knew a forum about it existed, let alone was about to influence a rule change. I also must insist that a full conversation about whether or not to ban the gun starts THIS Sunday, March 1st. I simply need this resolved as quickly as possible. The longer this takes to deal with, either way, the more time gets wasted.
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