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Mean Machine:

--- Quote from: nhbearit on February 28, 2015, 12:54:06 pm ---The thing is, before you ban weapons, all teams are equal. They have had the same amount of opportunities to practice with whatever weapon regardless of how new or established the weapon is. Once you ban a weapon, especially with little to no notice, you change the equation. Teams that spent time investigating the new weapon are at a disadvantage compared to teams that didn't spend time looking at it.

Mean Machine, you really should care. Not only should you care, but this should scare the living crap out of you. I, and every other competitive captain, have to budget time for eight people. We have to decide who practices what and to what extent. We have to have these things decided in advance. Competitive captains simply can't afford last second changes to rules. Sord has already put time and effort into figuring out the minotaur. We've invested in learning how to use it and how to get around it. The decision to ban the minotaur has effectively made that time a waste.

I never even knew a forum about it existed, let alone was about to influence a rule change. I also must insist that a full conversation about whether or not to ban the gun starts THIS Sunday, March 1st. I simply need this resolved as quickly as possible. The longer this takes to deal with, either way, the more time gets wasted.

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Well I guess I just don't care. I mean, we were practicing against and with minotaur too, but I would never make such a huge deal out of this, for no matter what gun or tool. I would say I don't agree with choice, but I wouldn't start posting I might quit or "we were practicing so it's not fair"... If someone has to easy off, I would expect that experienced team like yours would be the one. I'm not saying you're wrong to ask what you ask, but can't we just  forget about the weapon for one day and we can discuss it tomorrow and whole next week. It's not like they said they won't allow it for whole tournament and they are willing to discuss it. I would guess that those guys who were asking for gun to be banned are probably quite unexperienced players or haven't played competitive yet maybe and they are afraid to play against this gun. I know it doesn't sound fair, but I think we should just forget it for today and discuss it for next week, there will be plenty chances to use the gun in competitive play, no need to lose sleep over one Saturday.
Idk you're just acting like this particular saturday is only day we would able to play with minotaur in competitive and your practice will go to waste.

BlackenedPies:
According to the thread http://goio-league.com/forums/topic/minautor-canon/
I see 3 votes against and 3 in favor.
Yea: Steve CZ, Sammy B T, Lueosi
Nay: Sedrion, Dark Chiyo, Elrico le Manchot
In my math that's a tie

Dementio:

--- Quote from: Skrimskraw on February 28, 2015, 12:30:39 pm ---but matches are 15 mins long, and these are not pub games?

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But these matches are 20min long:

--- Quote from: VVhite Angel on February 24, 2015, 07:35:33 am ---Updating rules :
- Only 1 game of 20min max + 5min overtime (for both matchs against same team), 1 game goings, 1 game commings. You fight a single team : 2 times on the same map, with switching sides.

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and I was talking about the decision of banning a gun, not the length of game.


--- Quote from: BlackenedPies on February 28, 2015, 01:05:03 pm ---In my math that's a tie

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If it is a tie, is it not up to the organisers to have the final say?

Foxx:
it's so last second that we've had enough time to put - with this one - 16 posts about it.

As for me, It's a fun gun, but i'll find a way to survive without using it for 1 week, as the plan doesn't hinge entirely on a single gun. but hopefully it'll be available next week.

I'll echo Dan on this with not having a problem with the organisers having the final say.

VVhite Angel:
The last second decision wasnt the best choice, i'm know. I would love have much time someday :)

Well, i take all point of view in consideration, i really want to discuss again in few days, i think SCS will bring something interesting about Minotaur ... maybe :) Im waiting for it.
Now we got the time between each day of play, i can say we will ask again and maybe allow all weapons.

Btw we are quite happy after this first day.
Some little problems about the dual teams (1 ship + 1 ship) we are aware of that and are already thinking about how to solve this (maybe for next season).

Hope everyone got fun too.

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