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Dutch Vanya:
It's too bad that this tiny insignificant competitive scene is the only place where people know how to play the game. I always thought there were some great matches in the community. But what would a casual like me know. Maybe after another 2000 hours i can finally learn how to play the guns of icarus!

Mean Machine:

--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on December 14, 2014, 01:15:49 pm ---It's too bad that this tiny insignificant competitive scene is the only place where people know how to play the game. I always thought there were some great matches in the community. But what would a casual like me know. Maybe after another 2000 hours i can finally learn how to play the guns of icarus!

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Lol, I'm sorry, but at this point you just seem miserable. Are you upset that you weren't mentioned as one of the big boys?
No one said pug players can't perform, they only said competitive matches provide better grounding from where you can better observe and notice someone's skill.
It's good if you have great matches yourself, I unfortunately can't say same for myself. I rarely have good, challenging and balanced match. It's 5:0 80% of the time. Some of those you're on winning side, some on losing and neither is fun.
In any case, I don't know anyone that would do his 100% in pug game, so therefore how do you evaluate such player and how skilled he is?

Dutch Vanya:

--- Quote from: Swiftpaw on December 14, 2014, 02:01:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on December 14, 2014, 01:15:49 pm ---It's too bad that this tiny insignificant competitive scene is the only place where people know how to play the game. I always thought there were some great matches in the community. But what would a casual like me know. Maybe after another 2000 hours i can finally learn how to play the guns of icarus!

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Lol, I'm sorry, but at this point you just seem miserable. Are you upset that you weren't mentioned as one of the big boys?
No one said pug players can't perform, they only said competitive matches provide better grounding from where you can better observe and notice someone's skill.
It's good if you have great matches yourself, I unfortunately can't say same for myself. I rarely have good, challenging and balanced match. It's 5:0 80% of the time. Some of those you're on winning side, some on losing and neither is fun.
In any case, I don't know anyone that would do his 100% in pug game, so therefore how do you evaluate such player and how skilled he is?

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I'm pretty sure i would have the same bitter opinion about this game if i had been mentioned. Why would I not do my 100% in pub games though? Am i supposed to half-ass it for thousands of matches? Overall I really just want people to realize how silly the ego stroking is in this game. But you guys are going to keep doing your thing, and hopefully the spirit of the community outside of competition stays alive too. In the end i'm clearly looking for a different experience than you people.

DJ Logicalia:
I feel it's simply preposterous to say there aren't any really good players outside of competitive, and we all know it. It's hard to get into the scene unless you're A) in a clan or B) know a lot of people.

But one of Patched's previous points about pilots: I, too, have seen great pilots with good crews get trounced in a perfectly balanced match, because they don't have their regular team. I feel a lot of players can't work outside of their own group. I don't know if that's inherently a fault, but it is something that totally happens.

Crafeksterty:
Dont know what your point is as you didnt point it out.
Were not talking about playing pub games, were talking about the fair served difficulty coming from pub or competetive that makes a player able to asses and play better.
Does pub have that?
Does competetive have that?


--- Quote ---Why would I not do my 100% in pub games though? Am i supposed to half-ass it for thousands of matches?
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You cant 100%. Not all the time. Because from my argument, you will rely on your crew. Which in pub games offer players that dont even want to learn.
Lets not forget the enemies side in all things. Was it that honourable killing a half surrendered team?
And why when perhaps the enemy team doesnt give 100%... or your ally.

And i dont know what the hell you mean by the "ego stroking" that you think is going on. Because like i said, you didnt point it out and you were ironicaly and ended up as a hypocrit

--- Quote ---Maybe after another 2000 hours i can finally learn how to play the guns of icarus!
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Cool! 2000 hours! You were here before Day 1! Youre older than me! But doesnt seem wiser



--- Quote --- I feel a lot of players can't work outside of their own group. I don't know if that's inherently a fault, but it is something that totally happens.
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That is so true with me. Ive had really good pub crew that managed to keep up with my spire but i really couldnt go beyond X2Gat-hwacha-Mortar.
I cant play around with other builds and practice them, which my clan crew would allow me because they could keep up.

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