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ShadedExalt:

--- Quote from: Schwalbe on November 08, 2014, 06:50:32 pm ---Hey guys, i have even better idea.

Ban anyone with less than 20 matches completed from choosing pilot or gunner or engineer.

You can guys thank me later for my genius invention. :)

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20 games of spectation with commentary on what the crew did right and wrong, and how the cap'n screwed up.

HamsterIV:

--- Quote from: sparklerfish on November 08, 2014, 12:56:48 pm ---Is the default class you start as gunner? 

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Yes, when a new player logs in their starting class is gunner. When I asked Muse why they did this they said gunner is the easiest class to learn. To a degree it is. If I have one brand new player I stick them as a gunner on an easy gun like a gat.

I do not agree with this approach since tricks newbies in to the least versatile class first. If this game is bought as a 4 pack amongst friends and they all play their first match on the same ship together as default class (gunner), they will have an absolutely rotten experience. Four gunners makes a much less viable ship than 4 engineers.

Trystan Hart:

--- Quote from: HamsterIV on November 09, 2014, 02:46:37 am ---
--- Quote from: sparklerfish on November 08, 2014, 12:56:48 pm ---Is the default class you start as gunner? 

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If I have one brand new player I stick them as a gunner on an easy gun like a gat.


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I always put them as an engineer on a simple gun like a gat. It's tedious having to explain 5 times a session that gunner is only useful if you need more than 1 ammo type, but I'd rather they get used to the idea that engineer is more useful than gunner 95% of the time.

Richard LeMoon:
Gunner is not easier to learn or teach. You have to explain three different ammos, ranges, lead, order of firing, timing, gun maintenance, emergency repairs, spots, AND they have to talk because gunner/pilot feedback is important.

Engineers? "If it is red, hit it with a spanner. If it is not, hit it with a mallet. Use a gun when I tell you. Use your special ammo when they are close/far."

And I will agree on no novice pilots as well outside of custom matches.

Chmielewski:
I think that novice engineer or pilot is worse.
(But any novice is good when you can cooperate with them.)

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