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Why does everyone hate Gunners?
Devinstater:
Everytime I get match made the captain tries to force an engineer loadout onto me and then I deal with 5 minutes of theory crafting as to why gunner is useless.
The ship cannot function properly without a captain or an enigneer, is it too much to ask to do the same with the most fun role of GOIO, shooting?
Omniraptor:
This is one of the main religious schisms of GOI, there are a few epic-sized threads about it. Most people agree you need a gunner on really difficult guns like lumberjack, and don't need one on really simple guns like gatling. It all depends on ship and gun loadout.
SaintR.L.:
--- Quote from: Omniraptor on November 01, 2014, 11:39:30 pm ---This is one of the main religious schisms of GOI, there are a few epic-sized threads about it. Most people agree you need a gunner on really difficult guns like lumberjack, and don't need one on really simple guns like gatling. It all depends on ship and gun loadout.
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Even to that you'll find people who argue that one single ammo type and a buff hammer is all you need for virtually every single gun in the game.
My opinion is, if it's not competitive you are free to do however you like. Cooperation is important though and the captain/pilot is the leader. Following orders is important. You could always go to a different ship if you do not wish to do as your captain tells you. Me personally, I will tell them my opinion and what I would do if I feel that what they're telling me to do is bad but I will follow orders nevertheless. The captain is the one who makes the final decisions on the ship.
sparklerfish:
--- Quote from: Devinstater on November 01, 2014, 11:16:35 pm ---The ship cannot function properly without a captain or an enigneer
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A ship can't function without at least TWO engineers.
--- Quote ---is it too much to ask to do the same with the most fun role of GOIO, shooting?
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...did you know that engineers can also shoot guns? And in fact, generally can shoot MORE, because they can keep their guns repaired effectively and not on fire without relying on an engineer to extinguish it for you?
A gunner doesn't necessarily shoot more. A gunner just is less flexible in terms of being able to repair. Extra ammo types aren't really that important. The vast majority of guns have one single ideal ammo type (or at least ideal for the build and circumstance).
I don't know who originally said it, but there's a quote: "Gunner is a binary class, 1 or 0," meaning that a ship works effectively with either 1 or 0 gunners. Having an engineer loadout doesn't change your role at all -- you're still there to shoot the dickens out of the enemies and out-damage them.
Some guns, like lumberjack, heavy flak, and mine launcher, really do benefit from having three ammo types to choose from. Hwacha and hades also to some extent, but it depends on the map, build, and pilot -- sometimes just one extra ammo as an engi will suffice.
Not being gunner CLASS doesn't mean you are on guns any less. It just means your loadout is more flexible and you're more independent and don't have to rely on an engi to keep your guns chem sprayed. It also potentially frees you up to have a buff hammer along with pipe wrench and extinguisher/chem so you can buff your own gun and deal additional damage.
HamsterIV:
There are huge discussions over the usefulness of gunners, however I would like to address the hatred of gunners (as stated in the thread topic). New players default to gunner so when one joins your ship they will probably not know what to do or even how the weapons work. I have had the privilege of flying with some mighty fine gunners who pull off match making plays, but many times the gunners that are assigned to my crew are paste eating simpletons. I have to either spoon feed easy shots to them or watch in disgust as they dump entire magazines into empty sky. Sometimes they just run around getting in the engineer's way and I can't tell an engineer to take over a gun because we are taking too much fire.
So when your captain is giving you grief for being a gunner, keep in mind that it is very easy for a novice gunner to mess up an otherwise solid ship.
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