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Version 1.3.8 Hotfix Release Notes
Thomas:
I think the concerns brought up are valid. With all the big changes to leveling and matchmaking, it might take a few passes to get things integrated in a way that make sense to everyone.
I think the big thing mentioned was about hiding levels in the match, but showing them in the global/match chat. The first part was done because matches are not set based upon your level, but are based on your hidden rating. However, most players were assuming that it was based upon level. So going into a match with some level 10's against some level 30's seems awkwardly stacked, when it's actually fairly balanced.
I'm not as sure about the levels in the chat, but it's probably just a nice way of letting players show off their rank.
Now that there's the crew/captain instead of individual classes does not mean you have to play as an engineer if you don't want, as much as you don't have to play as a gunner. You should still be able to choose your class just fine.
And of course there's always the Custom Game option to view a version of the match list. You can still join up with friends or make your own lobby and such. We did this for the SCS as well.
Remember to keep it civil on the forums. We love the feedback, both positive and negative.
Imagine:
--- Quote from: Schwalbe on October 27, 2014, 12:36:54 pm ---I'm talking about previous monday, when the new update came out. And I tell from the experience of last week, when this patch is on. And I REALLY haven't seen a player to say "Wow, this matchmaking thing is good!"; only "Jesus, what is this crap? I can't do this, this and this. Why this is working like that? It's unlogical/uncomfortable."
I came here for last two week of lobbies, and honestly? I had nothing against manually looking for a match, it was faster, it was easy. Now most options are rather not transparent, unintuitive. I CAN see reasons behind some of the changes, but mostly they are poorly implemented. And I have to tell you, that despite being rather not giving up person, I ragequited few times because of how matchmaker put me.
Is it understood?
The fact that I'm around here for a month doesn't mean I speak mindlessly. Only grammar incorrectly.
Give me 4 hours, and I'll give you cold-headed analysis of what I consider stupid/crappy/not working. So far, I have to pass coming test at University, pardon me.
--- End quote ---
Actually my comment was referring to you talking about how no one paid attention to us when everything was "lovely", something, considering your recent joining of the game and forums, you wouldn't have much frame of reference to.
Anyways, Thomas, I think feedback is great too...
... when it's relevant and not just a bunch of nitpicking or irrational hatred.
Schwalbe:
It is NOT balanced. I can tell you from the ACTUAL game experience. It ALWAYS comes to a MASSACRE.
I have no idea, how ship with crew 27-31-28-43 against crew of 4-1-1-7 can be BALANCED. I haven't took the screen, and that's my bad, I see.
I tried to start the custom game - nobody even popped in. I waited around, I don't know. Twenty minutes.
I won't even try to comment crew/captain thing. It's not going to happen. Really.
We tried to keep it civilised way on forum, you just never heard what old players and some newer ones were saying waiting for a game.
Edit: Imagine, yes, I KNOW what you were talking about. I just EXPLAINED to you what I mean, and you still seem not even try to understand.
redria:
This is not the place for directed aggression
We can have this discussion peacefully. If you have a reply to a specific person, please make sure your reply is constructive and discussive (that's not a word) - asking and answering questions, not accusing. My thoughts on the matter aside, I hate to see people fighting - especially over a medium as easily misconstrued as the internet.
Thomas:
Well right now we're using the glicko 2 rating system, as far as I'm aware. (And I could very well be wrong)
This is mostly based on win/loss against your opponents rating. However, this means that you need to play matches to start earning your rating. The more matches you play, the more accurate the matchmaking system will become.
Then of course there's the crew formation. For instance if an entire competitive team forms a crew and hops into the matchmaking, it's going to be nearly impossible for the system to create a fair match for them, since it would take another competitive team of relatively equal skill level doing the same crew form and matchmaking around the same time. So just about any match they're put into is going to be skewed heavily. However, due to this, it shouldn't affect either teams glicko 2 rating in a significant way. Trying to balance the matches while still giving players the features they want is difficult. It would be much easier to remove the crew formation and joining on friends to create a much more balanced matchmaking system, but at the same time we don't want players to lose the ability to play with their friends.
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