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Problems with matchmaking
shaelyn:
yeah Imagine, the matchmaker doesn't look at levels, it looks at skill. while levels aren't really a good indication of skill, you take a pilot that's hit the max and you look at a player that has never played, and well, that's pretty easy to judge.
the matchmaker doesn't balance ships, it balances teams. and it looks like matchmaker doesn't try to fill the lobby with people around a sort of bracket of skill level at all (such as the novices in a match against each other) - rather, it just seems to grab a pool of people quickly and sort out skill level where it can. could be wrong, but that's my experience so far.
Imagine:
--- Quote from: shaelyn on October 23, 2014, 08:16:24 am ---yeah Imagine, the matchmaker doesn't look at levels, it looks at skill. while levels aren't really a good indication of skill, you take a pilot that's hit the max and you look at a player that has never played, and well, that's pretty easy to judge.
the matchmaker doesn't balance ships, it balances teams. and it looks like matchmaker doesn't try to fill the lobby with people around a sort of bracket of skill level at all (such as the novices in a match against each other) - rather, it just seems to grab a pool of people quickly and sort out skill level where it can. could be wrong, but that's my experience so far.
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What I meant by that is a lvl 45 pilot queuing up as a lvl 1 engineer isn't seen by the system as a lvl 1 engineer, thus wouldn't (or, rather, shouldn't) be queueing them into a lvl 1 match, which seemed to be of some discussion here.
Dementio:
Speaking of skill: How is a novice that wins every match against novies different from a high level that wins against high level pilots or even low level pilots? What if the novice plays on the high level ship against high level enemies and wins? Would he not, according to the system, have a similar amount of skill as the high level pilot or even more since he is a lower level and wins against high levels?
I don't want to doubt Muse's ability to come up with algorithm or use already existing algorithm, but I worry that the algorithm for Matchmaking is not able to differentiate between high level & high skill and novice and high skill.
GeoRmr:
--- Quote from: Dementio on October 23, 2014, 11:13:20 am ---Speaking of skill: How is a novice that wins every match against novies different from a high level that wins against high level pilots or even low level pilots? What if the novice plays on the high level ship against high level enemies and wins? Would he not, according to the system, have a similar amount of skill as the high level pilot or even more since he is a lower level and wins against high levels?
I don't want to doubt Muse's ability to come up with algorithm or use already existing algorithm, but I worry that the algorithm for Matchmaking is not able to differentiate between high level & high skill and novice and high skill.
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Because of maths: it does differentiate between skill level and wins.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glicko_rating_system
Squidslinger Gilder:
Zomg, Muse didn't listen to really anything. First chance I had to really get into it while on this trip. Outside of custom games or events...there is no reason to play this game anymore. Good job Muse, you shot yourself in the foot...with a howitzer.
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