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A word on the Meta. (more like.. more than a word AMIRITE!!)
pandatopia:
Speaking of disable, pyra guns are funny in that they are placed in a weird almost blind spot when heading dead on at the bridge. It is easy to miss the angle and hit the bridge instead, only getting the guns with secondary damage.
Yet another advantage of the pyra! OP.
While junkers, spires, galleons, fish have giant targets painted on their guns.
GeoRmr:
--- Quote from: pandatopia on August 24, 2014, 12:20:48 pm ---Speaking of disable, pyra guns are funny in that they are placed in a weird almost blind spot when heading dead on at the bridge. It is easy to miss the angle and hit the bridge instead, only getting the guns with secondary damage.
Yet another advantage of the pyra! OP.
While junkers, spires, galleons, fish have giant targets painted on their guns.
--- End quote ---
Junkers spires and galleons all have MORE guns though.
Everyone forgot the pls buff goldfish threads after they became fashionable again.
Mezhu:
--- Quote from: GeoRmr on August 24, 2014, 01:33:02 pm ---
--- Quote from: pandatopia on August 24, 2014, 12:20:48 pm ---Speaking of disable, pyra guns are funny in that they are placed in a weird almost blind spot when heading dead on at the bridge. It is easy to miss the angle and hit the bridge instead, only getting the guns with secondary damage.
Yet another advantage of the pyra! OP.
While junkers, spires, galleons, fish have giant targets painted on their guns.
--- End quote ---
Junkers spires and galleons all have MORE guns though.
Everyone forgot the pls buff goldfish threads after they became fashionable again.
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This. Few months ago people were whining on how OP junker is. According to Urz mobula and goldfish were at the bottom of the ship potential list and in need of an immediate buff. Today people are asking for a Junker buff and a carronade nerf because carrofish is OP.
The so-called meta isn't written in stone. Don't like it? Change it. Some things will always be easier to play compared to others, doesn't necesserily mean they're unbeatable or too good. Complaining on a different set of ships/guns every couple of months depending on what is popular is just silly and counter-productive both for you and the game in general.
pandatopia:
My last post was supposed to be tongue in cheek.
I forgot my :< smiley.
Anyway I just was saying how sniping seems to be unpopular because sniping ships typically cannot dictate range, and many maps having tons of obstacles. I have seen good positioning and kill corridors being set up, which is nice though.
Shrug, I guess I just feel sniping takes too much effort.
Battle Toads:
Meta is always a touchy subject to talk about, but the reason for having it is because as you said, the only way to kill a ship is to shred its armor and pop the hull. Doesn't matter what build you have, in some ways it is very similar to the metamidion everyone hates. For example a carro-flamer is mainly a disable build, BUT it is still capable of killing and the flamer is capable of burning armor and damaging hull while the carro can take out balloons, which in the long run will damage hull as the ship sinks.
I still don't think that the gat + mortar is somehow the only build that works, a good disable ship can leave metamidions in a tight spot if they can't move when their balloon or engine is down. Gat + Mortar is just very basic and its used because it is easy, but metas always change considering junker used to be the super OP ship everyone wanted nerfed and the artemis was accused of ruining the entire game a few months ago (anyone else remember all the hate arts got before the nerf)
In short, no matter what happens we will always have a meta that will always change as the game goes on, it just happens that gat + mortar has been a meta build for the longest, but it is still not the perfect set up
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