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Ship swapping in Lobby before competitive matches
Spud Nick:
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--- Quote from: Captain Smollett on June 26, 2014, 02:34:40 am ---
--- Quote from: Grey T on June 25, 2014, 03:18:11 am ---So if somone could shout out what counters gat mortar pyra i would be all ears ^.^ ill perfect that build
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Junkers as demonstrated by the Mandarins easily counter pyras.
Though very much out of favor these days, one single well crewed asymmetrical Galleon with a coordinated escort ship like the Paddling used to run will rip to pieces a gat mortar pyra. It's been a long time since I've played competitively but when I did I pretty much always saw pyras as easy Galleon kills and picked on any pyras we faced to win matches.
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I've always seen pyramidions as easy targets too. Too bad that everyone in the haephestus challenge seems to be scared to use anything but pyras.
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Some ships are easier to crew on than others.
Dutch Vanya:
--- Quote from: Spud Nick on June 26, 2014, 02:02:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on June 26, 2014, 01:48:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Captain Smollett on June 26, 2014, 02:34:40 am ---
--- Quote from: Grey T on June 25, 2014, 03:18:11 am ---So if somone could shout out what counters gat mortar pyra i would be all ears ^.^ ill perfect that build
--- End quote ---
Junkers as demonstrated by the Mandarins easily counter pyras.
Though very much out of favor these days, one single well crewed asymmetrical Galleon with a coordinated escort ship like the Paddling used to run will rip to pieces a gat mortar pyra. It's been a long time since I've played competitively but when I did I pretty much always saw pyras as easy Galleon kills and picked on any pyras we faced to win matches.
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I've always seen pyramidions as easy targets too. Too bad that everyone in the haephestus challenge seems to be scared to use anything but pyras.
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Some ships are easier to crew on than others.
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True, but it's unfortunate that the meta is about what is easiest rather than most effective. Especially since people claim these competitive matches are "the highest level of play" in this game.
Imagine:
--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on June 26, 2014, 02:49:50 pm ---
--- Quote from: Spud Nick on June 26, 2014, 02:02:17 pm ---
--- Quote from: Dutch Vanya on June 26, 2014, 01:48:30 pm ---
--- Quote from: Captain Smollett on June 26, 2014, 02:34:40 am ---
--- Quote from: Grey T on June 25, 2014, 03:18:11 am ---So if somone could shout out what counters gat mortar pyra i would be all ears ^.^ ill perfect that build
--- End quote ---
Junkers as demonstrated by the Mandarins easily counter pyras.
Though very much out of favor these days, one single well crewed asymmetrical Galleon with a coordinated escort ship like the Paddling used to run will rip to pieces a gat mortar pyra. It's been a long time since I've played competitively but when I did I pretty much always saw pyras as easy Galleon kills and picked on any pyras we faced to win matches.
--- End quote ---
I've always seen pyramidions as easy targets too. Too bad that everyone in the haephestus challenge seems to be scared to use anything but pyras.
--- End quote ---
Some ships are easier to crew on than others.
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True, but it's unfortunate that the meta is about what is easiest rather than most effective. Especially since people claim these competitive matches are "the highest level of play" in this game.
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Time and time again it's been shown that meta is what's most effective with the least amount of drawbacks.
Dutch Vanya:
--- Quote from: Imagine on June 26, 2014, 03:32:54 pm ---Time and time again it's been shown that meta is what's most effective with the least amount of drawbacks.
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Fair enough, i guess something being easy does make it consistently effective.
Sammy B. T.:
I think something to consider is the state of many of the clans right now. "Restructuring" or some variant of that word was the most common thing clan leaders told me when I was trying to get people on board for the HC. Most of the teams in there are fairly fresh on the scene or new players with some older guidance. HRA, a combination fo the fairly new Holy team and the quite new SPQR have been unstoppable. Cake and Muse have been pulling off major upsets. OVW and Ducks are both new pilots and crews. SIR and SAC are kicking into high gear. I think as we go along, we will see higher diversity of ships as teams get more and more solid and have to come up with new ways to beat each other. Personally for the Ducks we're seeing the Clamour transition away from their early pyramidion builds and switching over to Junkers and they've been practicing Galleons and Goldies as well.
The solution to the great pyra flood is not some weird double blind system added to lobbies or a draft system. The solution is for teams to continue to solidify and take their game to the next level. Pyras are fine but people just need to trust other ships more.
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